Valve's next insane step: New beta with
well, even if they don't i guess somebody's gonna try to make a "CS 1.6 KZmod", and if they fail we will all have to move to NonSteam....
Originally posted by siDe+1 .. I hope Valve will add a cvar if they will realease this stupid beta update ..
Stop thinking about some cvar. This is not amxx plugin. This is main engine. And cvar wont help us so much here, cuz kz is the legal cs settings. So no!
We need a stepsound on doubleduck on highspeed and that's all! In hlsdk it will be even easier to make than this &!^#$*@ slowdown!
why does people post on steam forum things like " u will lose lot of money" all guys already bought a legal version of cs1.6, i think valve dont care if people leave cs , they already won money with that game, and i dont think they still sell a lot of cs1.6.
love arguments like lets vote like in democracy...
it is their game, they do whatever they want to do and they dont need any aprobation,
the only thing u can do is ask them, being polite and hope they will concider your opinion
i think u guys should stop try to threaten valve with things like u will lose 200k active people.
ive not read all the post in the steam forum but most the post i read looks useless arrogant or with bad argument(save kreedz etc ) except faker who i think did a great post
but this is my opinion, dunno if u agree this
I read some of the posts and 90% made me laugh. Let the smart people post, not some random kiddies who make a fool of the community.
Originally posted by tranche-taillei think u guys should stop try to threaten valve with things like u will lose 200k active people.
To be fair, CS does not break 100k users per day anymore, compared to a year ago 350k. CS is dieing.
How do you know that ...?
Sure you don't ;)
Anyway main year of CS was 2004 ! (over 2 million players / day)
http://store.steampowered.com/stats/
CS has never broken 500K max users. (while on steam atleast)
Can anyone post the text below in this forum, please? - 6th day waiting for email...
And please copy only what I wrote in blockquote (and add the [ url=http://www.sendspace.com/file/uumvq1 ] [ /url ] if you can). Thanks.
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Bugs found:
Slowdown is really bugged (you should rather use stepsound on successfull doubleduck if speed is enough high). Demo.
What is doubleduck:
Duck and unduck before you are fully crouched - I agree doubleduck is bad name for this exploit but people named it like this so let it be it.
As you can see - slowdown is a really bad solution. You should just add a step sound when doubleducking at high speed. Anyway, in hl engine doubleduck already exists (so there is no need for me to post here codes of how to detect it). You only have to add a step sound code if speed is enough high.
This sound solution will make much less damage and to cs (Counter-Strike) and to kz (Kreedz). Hope you will take a look on this and make a wise decision.
P.S. Good job removing the texture-sound-no-refresh-bug - nice done.
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Originally posted by DaFoxOriginally posted by tranche-taillei think u guys should stop try to threaten valve with things like u will lose 200k active people.
To be fair, CS does not break 100k users per day anymore, compared to a year ago 350k. CS is dieing.
i dont think cs actually had a big drop in players. a while ago valve took the stats down for around a month(before which cs had the 300k+ you speak of). When they put them back up, cs had magically lost 200k players and was always behind source... conspiracy!?
double post, glitcheh
Just for curiosity played css not in "New game". And proved myself again - It's such a big peace of shit... If kz will die I'll rather stick with steamworks beta (if will fix crash bug and will have more server), else will go to cs1.5, else will quit cs, else if I'll have a choice to die or play css will choose to die, and only then play css.
How people can like it... Just don't get it. There are only two things what are better than 1.6 - quality, and you know what's behind your back if using sniper weapons... That's all!
And I will not agree with anyone who will say that css is what we can proudly call Counter-Strike. Counter-Strike is half-life1 engine and that's it!
Imo only people with bad personality (like Bibos or ravers should go in it and stay away from us as far as possible), or who are used to extreme updates are willing to go in it (stay with cs from first version), or just kids who think that life is nice with flowers all around the place and unrealistic as models there are... (No offense).
// edit (dont want to make multi-posts):
I think this is a bit related to the duck thing, so wanna show you how much CPU unduck uses (just was looking at hlsdk) (yes, only coders will understand how stupid it is to use loop instead of getting hit position once) (copied from hlsd including comments).
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// This is a glorious hack to find free space when you've crouched into some solid space
// Our crouching collisions do not work correctly for some reason and this is easier
// than fixing the problem :(
void FixPlayerCrouchStuck( edict_t *pPlayer )
{
TraceResult trace;
// Move up as many as 18 pixels if the player is stuck.
for ( int i = 0; i < 18; i++ )
{
UTIL_TraceHull( pPlayer->v.origin, pPlayer->v.origin, dont_ignore_monsters, head_hull, pPlayer, &trace );
if ( trace.fStartSolid )
pPlayer->v.origin.z ++;
else
break;
}
}
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Originally posted by DaFoxhttp://store.steampowered.com/stats/
CS has never broken 500K max users. (while on steam atleast)
oh please if you think those stats are for real then ur really retarded, cs 1.6 still has more people playing on it daily then in css
those stats say cs 1.6 have 45k players at the moment, while game monitor shows that there are 141k ppl are ingame at the moment.. now please dont start saying there are 100k bots
Someone contact bibo and tell him to stop being a fucking jerk in the thread
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=848955&page=8
"srsly stop postin my movies as an argument, i want kz to die, kz fails it has no competetion its like a ♥♥♥♥in xbox game
the person who plays the most wins thats it, can not fail more"
"stfu theres not 200 000 users, theres like 2500..
and brian it didnt destroy surfing at all, i dont remember ducking when i surf."
bibo,
rare of him, acting like a boy <3
Wow, you really could think Valve would do some more mature move then delete the thread and act like we doesn't exist. gg
Valve deleted fakers thread... Valve are looking forward for slowdown features... Valve making delays between unducks what work randomly... Valve...
No, this is enough!!! I made an amxx plugin what makes slient-run not silent and removes their slowdown once and for all.
However I'm not making it public for now... Will see do valve have conscience at all. If not (what is mostly exptected) will publish my plugin. However I must say that it uses nice number of variables...
Also I really want to post here the way what shows how simple it is to remove that silent-run aka russian run (without changing no psychics [comment from my plugin])!
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/*
Now let's take a look how hard it would be to change this in hlsdk (what valve should do in the first place, but probably wont cuz they are... They are valve... It says everything...)
1. Valve should remove slowdown after unduck what they added in beta version (make it like it was).
2. Valve should add this code in unduck part where traceHull made it's work and player can get teleported 18 units higher:
if ( (pev->flags & FL_ONGROUND) && pev->bInDuck && (sqrt(pev->v.velocity.x * pev->v.velocity.x + pev->v.velocity.y * pev->v.velocity.y) >= 190) )
EmitSound(...); // instad of ... you only have to add sound properties
(pev->flags & FL_ONGROUND) checks is player on ground
pev->bInDuck checks is player in ducking process
other part checks is speed is higher or equal 190 units/second
I'm not sure but I think that 190 is speed when you start emiting stepsounds, right?..
*/
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P.S. I'm not C++ coder, so am not sure will it work, but idea is clear for c++ coders, so if it has mistakes it's easy to fix them.
NumB, very good :) But I personally think kz should be playable without plugins.. It's very sad that they will make the doubleduck slowdown.. But I will def. use your plugin on my server for kzing when/if you release it :) Thank you!
NUMB saves the day .
If valve will continue with the update its very simple and LEGAT what we will do . Use numb`s plugin :D
OR
MAYBE someone here will realease a PATCH that will rollback the update. Take the .exe file , install it in you`r cs and you have the old movement. Simple as that .
Then you will have 2 many scammers Cretu. If you make a patch or something, some scriptkiddes wanna steal your account details with it.
So i think that the patch idea wont work
it is true that valve deleted faker's post...
did they do it without any commentary?!?!
i don't want to bellieve they just delete it and pretend there never was a post. thats ridiculous...
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