A Little LJ, CJ, BHOP and HJ Help For You!

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TlofT02/03/2010 12:21

6month bump and so far the only advice is dont jump 100aa lol..

DiDo-Grecord holder02/03/2010 13:50

+1 100aa suxhard

fizik02/03/2010 16:14

+1 100aa fucked my strafes

kREWAN02/03/2010 19:31

Originally posted by TrAElS
Originally posted by kREWAN;>
Originally posted by TrAElS
Type: LongJump
Direction: Forwards
Distance: 252.721252
MaxSpeed: 338.020935 (63.462)
PreStrafe: 274.558105
Strafes: 7
Sync: 94%


#. Sync Gained Lost MaxSpeed
1. 85% 11.359 0.000 285.918
2. 91% 10.619 0.034 296.503
3. 90% 10.178 0.252 306.429
4. 100% 8.650 0.000 315.079
5. 100% 8.405 0.000 323.485
6. 100% 9.039 0.000 332.525
7. 100% 5.495 0.000 338.020

My server hasn't gotten airtime stats, and i dont have any demo. but any comments on these stats? (record btw, but i wanna go further :P)

I think you got other accs -.- Newest member on xj (#70399) , 1 post and voíla 252 just like that. You're the next fact or bibo!


Lol.. no :) i've been following xtreme-jumps for a while, just made the account today cause i couldn't get any further with my LJ's. I'm playing HnS so LJ is all that important, but i just decided to go further with it and i joined this site. but any constructiv critisism, or do you need more info?.. (:

Lol'd my ass of there. Hidenseek have nothing to do with longjump, only for aa100 guys like you that goes to redroof/whiteroof/ct base(down) on awp_rooftops to longjump but can't actully play hns -.-'

Harley02/07/2010 21:02


Distance: 249.542953 MaxSpeed: 318.066131 (44.260) PreStrafe: 273.805450 Strafes: 5 Sync: 79
1 9.861 0.000 16.6 75
2 10.273 0.592 16.6 91
3 8.524 0.111 19.4 64
4 10.423 0.000 20.8 73
5 5.177 0.000 26.3 100

What should I do in order to hit the 250? Except for 6 strafes (my sync sucks big time)?

A3TIUS03/07/2010 02:33

Increase your PreStrafe

kafds03/07/2010 03:35

Well, Harley, there are a few things to improve and providing a demo would also give us a better insight of what is going on here.

Your strafes could be slightly bigger, the first one could provide approximately 2-6 more speed, however doing a bigger first strafe will affect all your other strafes: you'd have to do them faster in order to make all those 5 beautiful strafes. Speed is another thing you could try testing.

Personally my first 250 stats were with 7 strafes and a lousy 60ish synchronisation percent. When you've got more strafes, even if they're smaller, less synchronized and simply worse than your 5 it can potentially provide more distance. Why? Because doing less strafes means you take more speed (at least theoretically) and by taking more speed you move more to the sides, and that eats up the distance. You can do a 245 with 345 maxspeed and high sync, but its because you would be doing too big strafes. Varying the speed AND size can have a positive effect.

You're so close to 250 that you could hit that point any time. When I did my first 250 I started doing 250's very often within the first week of hitting that elusive GODLIKE-sound. When you're that good already you've got a good basis to start developing on. Don't try anything too difficult, if doing more strafes is too difficult you should definitely without a doubt stick with 5 instead.

A3T!U$` wisely said "increase your prestrafe", and that thing would definitely also increase your distances. A static 275 (or even 276ish) is not impossible, and a prestrafe is the foundation of a longjump.

Keep up the good work, mr. registered-for-over-5-years-and-claiming-to-be-a-novice-jumper.

A3TIUS03/07/2010 07:11

^ U really love writing...dont ya... :P
On a serious note, ur post also turned out to be helpful for me...thnx

Harley03/07/2010 11:46

thanks a lot, kafds, very rich and helpful post!
i try and stick with 6 strafes for now, working my sync up to bout 80ish and, yeah, prestrafe :( i suck at it. every now and then i hit the "magical" 275+ but its so rare. and I only hit it on the blocks on kz_lj2.
oh and kafds, I wish I would have sticked to kz for those five years - I wouldn't have to ask such basic quistions then XD

kafds04/07/2010 02:17

Haha exactly, mate. I remember when I used to play some kz-maps when this community had like 100 members. It was about during the same time as you registered here, if I'm not terribly mistaken. I was playing with a Finnish guy called Tonise and our dream was to make a Pubmasters-clan copycat-thing - it never worked out since my interest dropped and I never kept in touch with Tonise. Weirdly enough, in 2009, I suddenly noticed Tonise amongst the earlier registered members in kzmaps-finland and I was like "whoa, this guy actually knew there was a jumping site 5 years ago and he never told me about it even though we were jumping together, thats weak bro".

I'm glad my post helped! If you have prestrafe-problems I recommend you use the speed-o-meter for a while, then try to do the same exact movement without /speed. If you have that /speed-command on all the time you'll become too attached to it, and you will become worse without it - don't use it 24/7! Submitting demos with speed-o-meter is not allowed, so it would be ideal to learn jumping without it... however it can help if you've got problems with the angle and so on.

And yeah, A3T!U$`, its great to write stuff sometimes - especially if the words have some meaning in them. I hope the comment helped you out!

MJK04/07/2010 09:53

Ok i have a question .... I was playing Kz and i decided to do few jumps at the start button ( flat surface no blocks) then i jumped something like this ( cant copy it right now i am at worck )
253.5 pre:269.5 strafes:6 sync:90 gain:63
so is this a bug or is it some kind of uber luck x_X cuz the jump acording to my calculations goes over 257.7 x_X with max pre.....Btw the server is totaly clean its one of the most famus bg servers and uses the XJ plugins and stuff ( sector ) x_X

kafds04/07/2010 18:44

It can't be anything else but a bug. Weird, though.

MJK07/07/2010 13:12(edited 07/07/2010 13:19)

Ok but this shit starts to happen very often like since my last post i had a few jumps like
252.4 269 pre 254 272 pre and stuff like this with normal gain ( around 60/65) sync 85/95 6strafes ....i checked my cfg for any sort of cheat /ilegal settings nothin unusual i eaven got me a fresh cfg from a new cs and just adder by bind "mwheelup" "+jump" ... mouse2+duck and stuff like that m_filter 1 and i still got some strange uber stat in witch i am shure it cant be posbile with 6 strafes x_X btw i got a new mouse G5 and it has some strange acceleration witch looks uber ugly but actualy kind of makes me jump alot more then usual... (noticed when i jump and i get the uber accel i mostly do good jumps 253.5+ but the style looks like crap and random x_X .....all jumps 10aa)
And this thing makes me kind of unhappy x_X all tought i jump more i kind of have the fealing something is wrong x_X since my comunity removed the lj recs i cant eaven put up a demo to see if it has something buggy in it x_X but i think its something with the acceleration of the mouse that makes these bugs ... And i havent done like 257 stat or 256 but i get good stat with crap pre witch bothers me ...

fizik11/07/2010 15:16

LJ is really random. Sync does not matter for distance tho - it only increases your speed. I got 249 stats with 340ms and 255 with 330ms. And with 6 strafes,you can do 255,x minimum,256 too?

Upload a demo and I'm sure someone can tell you if anything's wrong with it.

Originally posted by fizik
Sync does not matter for distance tho - it only increases your speed.


LOL. Do you really think that speed is not affect at distance ?

unBreakS12/07/2010 13:30(edited 12/07/2010 13:34)

Originally posted by kzru`ShoCk
Originally posted by fizik
Sync does not matter for distance tho - it only increases your speed.


LOL. Do you really think that speed is not affect at distance ?

Well afcourse it affect the distance. Imagine like chain

Prestrafe -----> Sync -----> Maxspeed -----> Distance| and the other way around

They all depend on each other. If one fails the others fail too.

Q.E.D.

notSpecial14/07/2010 16:47

Distance: 246.811965 MaxSpeed: 320.840667 (46.676) PreStrafe: 274.164428 Strafes: 6 Sync: 87
1 9.577 0.000 21.7 100
2 10.107 1.054 14.8 90
3 9.560 0.000 14.9 100
4 10.061 0.000 16.0 91
5 7.370 1.398 27.0 90
6 0.000 0.000 5

Why?another people like you on this stats jump 253 maybe but i only 246 ?

OLivus`14/07/2010 17:33

look at maxspeed/strafes and u will se why.

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