Hazard?
20/10/2009 14:46opa do u live in usa now? ;o
lagster u wrote pointless. and I never mentioned ur name hazard in that i wrote to lagster? SO SHHHHHHHH
lagster shh u too gtfo :)
20/10/2009 16:35i can't even understand your horrible english
keep your posts to yourself please.
20/10/2009 17:24as long as he doesn't upload it anywhere he isn't doing anything "illegal" (assuming the demo was cheated)
having cheated demos on youtube is still legal..
hazard: dunno if you cheat or not, and I really don't give a shit.
Originally posted by p0ku*Originally posted by PQST!!!Originally posted by Hazard of kz[a]
juhuu lagster is exactly right, just because you're on some pathetic quest to be famous doesnt mean i am too, try to comprehend that others may want something different than yourself. also the moviemaker who made that is very inexperienced in kz, i said to him after he made it that he shouldnt have put (WR) there because its not the world record, but it is my personal best. and i also have requested for him to remove it many times since its been up because i asked for it to be made for the wrong reasons, however he is too proud of his editing to take it down. its not my responsibility what he does with his movie.
and yes i have other demos, and other public times (feel free to go to www.hellface.com/auskreedz to look at them if you want)
and $iw is not 'suspecting' a cheater, he made this thread because of what i said in the previous thread when he was suspected, after all its not like ive been waving this movie or my demos in everyones face (because i dont want to be well known BECAUSE I DONT CARE ABOUT THIS SITE)
maybe you should take reference from my previous comments and forum posts saying how badly run this site is and how it may be the epitome of the kz community, BUT ITS NOT EVERYTHING!
kz for me is just going into my lan and jumping for fun, or going into pub and playing with my online friends, again, FOR FUN! i have no desire to play competitively on this website or to even socialise with anybody who comes on here. and that is part of my reason for not submitting my demos, they are for my own enjoyment not to get my fuckn rocks off over a bunch of idiots such as yourselves pulling my dick cause i can scroll the mousewheel(as lagster said)
anyway as i said before you can stick to your speculation, but just because i have the 'ability' to achieve good times doesnt mean i want to show it off on this website
(as i have said dont misunderstand - at the time i made this movie people were talking as you are now - why doesnt he subit, he must cheat) but honestly how closed minded can you be? think about what i said before if you read this
- just because you may want something doesnt mean everyone does.
well if u listened thanks, but as most of my experiences on this site suggest, you didnt. so ive said my reasons and if you choose to ignore them then whatever and enjoy living your life on the pretense that only what you do and what you want is right.
im out.
Conclusion.. $iw is: http://nobrain.dk
ban
or not... that's a joke not an offence
hazard doesnt want to showoff but always wears a clantag HAHAHAHA
laggster lives in a country whose population consists of more kangooroos than human and calls others "randoms" HAHAHAHA
those two australians really are a gift for this forum.
@topic: dont really care if they cheat, since they're lately registered nonames.
ok, seriously, i dont care if they cheat, but because i dont care about anybody cheating or not. every 3rd person in the whole kz scene is cheating anyways.
ps: say hi to your admin friends
20/10/2009 18:36oh chosen Im your fanboi
Once again this thread turned out to be a spam thread. You can go on chatting in here, it's alright. But once and for all keep this vulgarly language out of here and start to talk in a mature and civilized way. I don't want to hear any other offensive posts towards another member of this community once again and that counts for everyone.
to lagster
Lagster the flame you started was really not necessary in my eyes. I don't know what happened in "the other thread" $iw was talking about, but it's not a very wise first post you've taken there in my eyes. You don't stop to offend people with calling the "fuckhead" and other swear words. Furthermore your whole post is polemical and aggressive. You seem to be on fire these days, but you shouldn't leave it all out here at XJ. Sorry for that bro...
One week ban for lagster
Hopefully you will read this when coming back or someone will post it to you. Your discussion is heating this forum up and it's good, but you should stop being offensive and I know you can. At the moment you want to be offensive and we can't tolerate that.
Now about the content you've written in here:
$iw is unbanned and that automatically means that we should assume that he changed his behaviour. Only because he was cheating some time ago doesn't mean he's not allowed to create new threads in this forum either. Pointing out that he was a cheater himself seems to me like an attack on his person and it's completely offtopic, like $iw said it himself. Your whole posts deals with the accusation that he wants to get internet fame and that's not fair either, since you don't know him and you're probably not able to claim something like that.
to Hazard
Actually my "admin post" stops right here and no I will go on without talking in the view of my admin position. I will write as chrizZo now :D
In my opinion your reason, why you don't want to publish the demos is a good one. But you're knowing it yourself, if you don't publish them, you can't complain about it when people believe that you cheat. If you don't care, this thread makes no sense anymore and we could just close it. But it means that $iw has actually the "right" to think that you cheat.
But I also have to agree with NeMiQ22. If you really would not care at all about at least just sharing your demo, you wouldn't have given it away for someone to make a movie out of it. As NeMi said, there your e-fame begins. You've already cleared this issue up, but it's not really underlining your credibility for others as you can imagine.
Your posts are offensive as well, even tho you are not using swear words or anything else. Please be mature or I will need to warn you.
to chosen
Your post is offensive and even includes racism towards another country (Australia). One week ban for you. This was not necessary, you had nothing to do with it.
Originally posted by VoDkA`BoYopa do u live in usa now? ;o
yes i do, moved to here since thursday B)
Lagster: you're shit chosen, ignorant cunt.
20/10/2009 20:18Chrizzo laying down the law.
mmm pizza
lagster is just toooooo funny =)
20/10/2009 22:55(edited 20/10/2009 22:56)Originally posted by wRath`as long as he doesn't upload it anywhere he isn't doing anything "illegal" (assuming the demo was cheated)
having cheated demos on youtube is still legal..
hazard: dunno if you cheat or not, and I really don't give a shit.
Yep, I don't see any reason to suspect people on YouTube to cheat, it is not like they have advantages others don't. You can upload whatever you want on YouTube, as long as it's not offensive material.
I understand that Hazard's demos, that almost no one has seen, seems suspicious to some people, but lets say he cheats. What harm could he do, if he doesn't even want to show them to anybody? It has never been a proof that you don't cheat, if your demos/movies are on YouTube, so he could probably be cheating, but who cares? I'm not going to comment on whether he cheats or not because it is completely irrelevant, and I don't care either.
Having that said, this thread is clearly an attack against Hazard, not a cheating suspicion, and I understand why he reacts like he does, especially when this "suspicion" comes from a guy who we know used to cheat himself.
Note: I don't really know Hazard, I don't think I have ever spoke to him, but I know who is wrong and who is right in this thread.
this is my last post in this thread, and is mainly a response to chrizzo -
you are right that it was contradictory for me to have a movie made if it wasnt 'efame' i was searching for. but i did explain that it was a lapse in character, at that time 7D, chosen etc were undermining my opinions, and everyone was basically ignoring my ideas because i had no credibility (in terms of kz skill) so i got angry and uploaded a video to show people that not everything i was saying was a lie. although in a way it kind of worked in the opposite.
since its upload as i said, i have requested its removal many times because it basically goes against what i stand for.
i also have to apologise for the offensive nature of some of my posts in here, and for any unmitigated flaming. im just pissed off because i really try to avoid attention, especially of this nature, and thanks to me standing up for someone $iw has brought it upon me.
i have to disagree with some of what you say chrizzo, i believe i can reserve the right to be angry if people think i cheat. as i have said efame is not what im searching for, so why would i cheat? most cheaters would submit there demos to get some kind of recognition, to stand out and get attention. i am most angry from the judgment, where do people get off saying "he doesnt submit, he cheats" without knowing anything? ive been playing for 3 years now...what? 3 years of cheating? where is the fun in that? where is the challenge? it just seems unnecessary for people to jump out and voice their seemingly null informed opinions when they dont even know who i am, or how long ive been playing for, or who with. especially when, as i said, i dont wave or rub the video in peoples faces or anything like that.
and in lagsters defense, i have been playing with him basically since i started and we have become good friends. if i was in his position and a bunch of 'miscs' (this means no offense) were accusing a close friend i knew to be legit i would probably react the same. i know this is no exuse but im just saying anyway...
and to chosen... kz[a] is as much a close group of online friends as a clan. i believe it originated from lagster+drewbie+redoctober who all know eachother in real life and has only 4 active members today. (me Sean Lagster and CrazZzed who are all good friends)
its not a way for me to show off or anything stupid like that....come on.
i guess that whats most of what i wanted to say. but thanks to everyone who was able to voice their opinion (be it for, or against me) in a respectful manner.
edit: something just occurred to me...all the people who have played with me say i dont cheat, yet those who havent say i do.
what does that say?
its a shame how most things have to degrade to flame wars, especially over something so small. for the few times i've seen hazard in pubs, he's been cool and i've specced him a few times, so it seems pointless to start something over nothing.
look out for pizza, first edible wr holder??
Originally posted by puppetzHaving that said, this thread is clearly an attack against Hazard, not a cheating suspicion, and I understand why he reacts like he does, especially when this "suspicion" comes from a guy who we know used to cheat himself.
big phat words puppe :)
Thanks, got a virus from there PQST!!!.
This thread is not "an attack against Hazard" as you say puppetz (even though you state your thoughts as facts). I've talked to $iw in the past about this and he has been thinking about this for quite a while. Besides I don't believe he would be so childish as to put up a thread about Hazard just because Hazard said something to him/about him...
Having that said, this thread is clearly an attack against Hazard...
I do not agree when you say this is an attack against Hazard... This whole forum is an attack, it's not just for hazard like that. For me, this forum humbles players without any proof or anything. These are just claims and thoughts and it's really not fair to make these things public. Don't know who has created this part of the forum, but I'm against the chopping block.
i have to disagree with some of what you say chrizzo, i believe i can reserve the right to be angry if people think i cheat.
You don't disagree at all with me here. It's true what you're saying. And I already read the last post of yours before I posted my reply here. I know what you think about the youtube video and everything is alright.
As I said before, Hazard will not post his demos here as world records, so everyone can feel free to trust or to doubt his skills. If you have nothing against it Hazard, I can close this thread now because the goal of the thread is reached.