About spr1n's demo on kz_cg_wigbl0ck
Originally posted by shNzzhady why don't you try to take your wr back.. then everyone will be 100% sure that spr1n is clean. xD
yes and then the slipping number of american demos wouldn't be hurt anymore by you!
hand show or i won't believe it
btw you can still use scripts in steam rofl....
Originally posted by Supahand show or i won't believe it
Hansshow prooves nothing..
spr1n ownz cs
gl
idont belive none of his latest wr but he did it so i have to belive ;)
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I have watched spr1n doing a run on wigbl0ck (with cps).
he just has done 2 of the 3 jb with 2cps and 6 gochecks.
so he was able to do 1/3.
so he needs 1/90 (which is realistic iindeed)
u r wrong, jump bug is a technique you can practice and get better on it.
i have done it x2 lot of times...
I dont think spr1n cheats. Never saw him at public (maybe because I dont go on KZ-EST server), but I belieave that jb IS SKILL. I am a guy who always stops playing for 3 months or something and come back for 2 weeks for exemple, and I like jump bugs. One day I spend two days only geeking jump bug. Did 5x jump bug (not big height) and more than 100 jump bugs, was doing many jump bugs at hns too, all of them saving my life.
I stopped playing again. 2 months later I was back, and I am playing for 2 weeks and have done only 5 jump bugs, with more than 500 tries. Its a big strange, looks more harder, and I am releasing duck and jumping too far from ground, like 20-100 units. Jump bug is geeking, feeling like ndr said and skill, and if you spend a time training it and make many, you will see that on all the rest of the day, you will be able to do many jump bugs, beliave me.
Originally posted by ikmOne day I spend two days only geeking jump bug.
<3 this sentence :D
He is the Master of Time!
Originally posted by aistbalHe is the Master of Time!
Time and Space !!
he has a pretty bad language but i understood his point :D
hahaha sorry for the mistake :D:D:D
after posting I edited, and forgot the "one day".
shit, that will be a kz quote
Originally posted by Stefki4aOh my god, what handshow are you talking about...... spr1n doesn't need to prove anything to you. He doesn't cheat, his demos are legal, and he has these world records. So you are free to think whatever you want, and believe whatever you want, but the truth remains, he Doesn't cheat.
We don't say the same when kayne does the magical new uber-tech in bhoptoon ?
And so, I don't know if spr1n is a cheater or not and I don't care, but you know, edark is not god, and fps-death isn't perfect too.
And a new time, I never said srp1n is a cheater or anything else.
Originally posted by kz[aHazard]
guys stop saying "edark said hes clean, he doesnt cheat"
there is no way to know 100% if ANYONE online is clean, anybody could be cheating (as i said before fof is fairly blatently using slowmo in his xtremeblock/hj/lj demos and he has been deemed clean)
i refuse to believe that edark can detect EVERY kind of hack in every demo. its not possible.
when it comes to spr1n as i said again, im not well educated enough on jb to comment - but i dont care if he cheated - i dont like the maps he did it on nor am i impressed by edgebug / jumpbugs
plus im 100% sure that there are multiple cheated demos and people cheating that are getting away with it, so why should spr1n be any different?? (if he does cheat)
Very valid points.
If you think that there are no cheat-demos in the Record List, then you are being incredibly naive.
Though I must say, in this particular case, I have no reason to be believe that spr1n cheated, as I do believe that you can increase your JumpBug success by practice. That's based on very little JumpBug knowledge though, however, I do think that the discussion is healthy for the community.
I very much respect eDark as everybody else in this community, and I don't think any of us would like to picture the record list without him.
But he is not superhuman, just as the WADA (World Anti-doping Agency) aren't.
As you've mentioned youself Hazard, you don't have to look that deep - the FoF illusion still remains in this community. Note this is not to start a discussion, I know it's pointless - it was just a friendly reminder.
ah, hazard, btw, I dont think that fof cheats. I think that "strange strafes" is his W+D style (or W+A, dont matter)
if you seach a little you could find something saying about this style
Some guys have clearly said HE CHEATS even though they have no proof.. sounds lame enough? If you suspect slowmotion, you can see it in the movement.. what about this case? These people don't suspect anything, they just say he cheats.
Yes, and I think Hazard's prochallenge_bhop demo was cheated too even though I haven't seen the demo but only a movie.. but I know Hazard sucks so hard at kz so finishing that map IS SO IMPOSSIBLE. And cheche, I have seen only 1 demo by you but I think you're fucking cheater, seriously. I don't know what are you using, but you just cheat.
But whatever, I hope you finally realized how this case differs from the others thanks to my sarcastic post, I'm out of this thread.
omg remake YOUR SO RIGHT!!!
guys - please listen to remake - you are NOT allowed to suspect ANYONE of cheating unless you have SOLID proof.
(was there ever solid proof for iiN before he confessed?)
from my view when i watch fofs movement i think that he cheats, and the things he does are typical of a slowmo user.
and fact is, the 'illusion of fof' remains because nobody can be definitively sure.
the people in the community with half a brain are saying he cheats, the idiotic fanboys are saying hes clean - its the perpetual cycle.
and with spr1n personally i thought it was a similar case to kaynes demos with some cheated plugin of some kind.
you never know what people are capable and over time ive come to realise that nobody can be trusted over the internet, (as what happened with vonch recently is evidence) trusting in people online = getting humiliated in a newspost. (or other invariably humiliating circumstances)
like myself and cheche have said - edark is not god and he cannot detect every single cheated demo. so stop being so naive and keen up to the fact that people cheat instead of being such ignorant fanboys.
im probably never going to stop bringing up the fact that fof slowmoed in his xtremeblock/lj/hj demos (still havent watched his 272)
because i am SO sure of it and hate seeing cheaters with fanboys getting exactly what they want - attention.
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