little discussion

Started by BorJomi
28/01/2012 17:06
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Vee mapper VIP05/02/2012 03:02

It doesn't matter if the code actually changes something or not. It happens the plugin interfers with the engine, and as such it can't be allowed.

BorJomi05/02/2012 09:22(edited 05/02/2012 10:22)

Originally posted by Vee
It doesn't matter if the code actually changes something or not. It happens the plugin interfers with the engine, and as such it can't be allowed.

Originally posted by eDark
It s just that it apparently does on some PCs but for example i could never get a bug with the plugin while other people could.


What? David Blane returns? Sorry, but it's not good explanation for me "we ban plug, because we don't why it's happen", i gave a source, so you can easily check it for a problem.

If problem in lag, how say kielor, so why uq_jumpstats with ~10000 lines of shit code and more laggy features - pass you tests?

Last questions. You tested plug with other peoples (not including bugged players and his friends)? And their demo contains bug? We can see this tested demos with bug?







Mathzz05/02/2012 09:48

Originally posted by BorJomi
Originally posted by Vee
It doesn't matter if the code actually changes something or not. It happens the plugin interfers with the engine, and as such it can't be allowed.

Originally posted by eDark
It s just that it apparently does on some PCs but for example i could never get a bug with the plugin while other people could.


What? David Blane returns? Sorry but, it's not good explane for me "we ban plug, cause we don't why it's happen", i give a source, so you can easy check it for a problem.

If problem in lag how say kielor, so why uq_jumpstats with ~10000 lines of shit code and more laggy features - pass you tests?

Last questions. You tested plug for other peoples (not including bugged players and his friends)? And his demo contains bug? We can see this bugged testing demos?

You test it with plugins in faker's demo archive, right? So with this plugins, someone can get a bug?


Isn't there some one you can ask to translate? I have a really hard time to understand what your saying =/

BorJomi05/02/2012 10:21

Originally posted by Mathzz
Isn't there some one you can ask to translate? I have a really hard time to understand what your saying =/


sry my eng bad, i try update my post with more readable lang

kielorz06/02/2012 15:03(edited 06/02/2012 15:03)

Originally posted by eDark
it is only saved with a precision of 0.025 u/s in demos

false, not only

eDark06/02/2012 18:25

ok let me get this straight ...
you think kaynes demos are ok because you also claim that you can emulate the velocity with a higher precision than 0.001 u/s
but instead of helping kayne and other people by telling us where you found that "hidden data" or how your method works that would prove that their demos have standard movement you just claim that we re doing it wrong but obviously don t want to help us or anyone else ...
What is this? Kindergarten?
Unless you can somehow show us how you get your results any further discussion with you is obviously senseless because anyone could have come up with those logs.
And if you don t want to help anyone just stop saying they re doing it wrong. Thanks!

kielorz06/02/2012 18:48

Originally posted by eDark
ok let me get this straight ...
you think kaynes demos are ok because you also claim that you can emulate the velocity with a higher precision than 0.001 u/s
but instead of helping kayne and other people by telling us where you found that "hidden data" or how your method works that would prove that their demos have standard movement you just claim that we re doing it wrong but obviously don t want to help us or anyone else ...
What is this? Kindergarten?
Unless you can somehow show us how you get your results any further discussion with you is obviously senseless because anyone could have come up with those logs.
And if you don t want to help anyone just stop saying they re doing it wrong. Thanks!

Leaving the dicussion, I showed my results. Btw you didn't even told what is wrong exactly, because its "XJ policy" (trademark). So do I. Your right to not listen to me.

eDark06/02/2012 18:57

ok your choice then is not to help people that you think were treated wrong.
Just as i expected ...

nobody^06/02/2012 22:48

I just can't get what's the buzz about.. it's just a game after all.

faker mapper08/02/2012 11:05(edited 08/02/2012 11:07)

Originally posted by BorJomi
Last questions. You tested plug with other peoples (not including bugged players and his friends)? And their demo contains bug? We can see this tested demos with bug?


As I promised in my last comment, we did our best to run more tests about it, and the results were quiet weird:

With the plugins (didnt matter which) some of the demos were bugged, but not all of them (and not all the time), but without your plugins ZERO demos wege bugged, ever.

This means... even with your plugin, it can happen that 90%+ of the demos are okay, but only without the plugin the chances for "clean" demos are 100% all the time.

That's why we suggest that people DON'T use the plugin if they want to be sure that their demos will be save.

It's not our job and we don't have the capacities to check every single AMXX plugin and tell which part causes problems and why - that's simply not possible, sorry.

Regards,
F

BorJomi08/02/2012 14:03(edited 08/02/2012 14:03)

Originally posted by faker
Originally posted by BorJomi
Last questions. You tested plug with other peoples (not including bugged players and his friends)? And their demo contains bug? We can see this tested demos with bug?


As I promised in my last comment, we did our best to run more tests about it, and the results were quiet weird:

With the plugins (didnt matter which) some of the demos were bugged, but not all of them (and not all the time), but without your plugins ZERO demos wege bugged, ever.

This means... even with your plugin, it can happen that 90%+ of the demos are okay, but only without the plugin the chances for "clean" demos are 100% all the time.

That's why we suggest that people DON'T use the plugin if they want to be sure that their demos will be save.

It's not our job and we don't have the capacities to check every single AMXX plugin and tell which part causes problems and why - that's simply not possible, sorry.

Regards,
F


ok, but can you give me a few demos, which you tested and get a bug (not kayne's, hitman's, omilo's demos)?

coxey20/08/2012 12:24

Would someone be able to reupload the uq_dcj.sma?
It's expired :(

flywee11/10/2012 20:51

I'm interested to take a look in the .sma, could someone upload the source code?

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