my idea for mapchecking
19/06/2012 17:26shooting star is trustful
great
I already asked fragility to host a mapcheck server and he is willing to do so; just wait for the newspost. Thanks for making such a thread though, always nice to read suggestions.
EDIT: have to think the ideas more through, gonna update later
What do you mean by explaining the vote?
I see two main issues here :
a lot of ppl come up, as an explanation of their vote, with : cool jumps, great atmosphere etc..
Can it be considered as a good review of the map?no
2nd issue is that some ppl can't just give proper feedback mainly cuz they have a lack in english and can't explain themselves well. should their votes be rejected? no
thats the problem imo.
other than that, there're some really good ideas suggested here, hope to see some changes very soon.
Originally posted by nobody^In addition to Cyclopp's post I suggest that server to be available only for admins and trusted members.
Moreover, who is going to take care of the server?
lulz whats the point?
Even if Hitlooser got a pretty good idea overall, I'm a bit sceptic about the voting part. And if we go your way, there won't be anymore extreme maps, cause let's face it, everyone wants to clean the map nocp. And even if someone finishes the map with cp, doesn't automatically mean he'll vote positivally for it. That's too much of a shortcut to be true I'm afraid.
However, it would be pretty interesting to make a special post for this futur server for the feedbacks or even post seen beugs etc.
Originally posted by nobody^In addition to Cyclopp's post I suggest that server to be available only for admins and trusted members.
Moreover, who is going to take care of the server?
This is the time where admins think a bit and give the donators a role in this community (nothing with the fact I am a donator). Just sayin'
I have some ideas about these issues, which might solve them.
1.I think nobody^'s comment is important because we need some good players, not only skill but behavior. A good mature player can help a lots with map checking.
So, we should create a group and only the people, who join the group, can play in the server. Those who want to join the group have to accept the rule and promise that having good behavior in the server. If player doesn't follow the rule, admins can ban him from the server.
2. for the difficulty of the maps, we can set up couple of servesr that categorized as easy, normal, hard, extreme, which means the admins have to do a simple check for defining the level of the maps.
3.for the feedback, we can limit the number of words, like every feedback has to have at least 20 words.
make that server password protected and make a thread in forum where people which are really interested in helping mapchecking can ask for access.
great idea btw!
EDit: i suggest you to add in the mappoll(of that mapchecking server) maps that are "Map of the Week" on cosy. there are some of them which deserve some attention even though they weren't nominated here so far. this way it will be a bigger amount of maps to test on server.
since psyxopat is map crew leader on cosy and map admin here he can easily pick some maps to be added in this new nomination system.
wow lots of "map" words in here!
I already suggested the server idea somewhere in here a week ago.
Anyway, choosing mapcheckers is a bad idea. We would be back to the old system because:
1) Only certain people could check maps and as you know, most of them would get tired of it by a few months
2) Admins wouldn't be active enough to constantly recruit new mapcheckers, resulting in a failure
Imo the system should be automatic, e.g. only users that have been registered for at least 1 month would get access to the server. This would keep out obvious trolls but at the same time, would allow as many people as possible to take part. It's quite easy to code such system too.
Also, all players have to have access to checkpoints, hook, noclip and godmode. Requiring players to check maps by climbing them is not mapchecking, it's just playing for fun.
20/06/2012 16:33The community will get bored really fast of any idea of a mapchecking system. The only way to make them really participate, in a good way, to the map checking task is to give them some kind of rewards.
What rewords? don't know, maybe admin on the server for 1 week for 5 bugs found (this may help to bring people on the server as well). And any other rewords that the stuff should come up with.
But it should be some active admins for this to work, to give the rewords, monitor who deserves them and who not, "fight" with the trolls/spammers... So the "rewords" system will probably fail as well...
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