400FPS Shitty Quality

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MCeUktxrgw

what the problem?

in HLAE, i recorded this movie in 400fps, in virtualdub - UNCOMPRESSED, in SonyVegas - Lagarith Codec (.avi), and then render in RipBot264 to .mp4, but quality still sucks. Whats the problem? Plz help.

Because you are did slowmo. If you are wish do slowmo, improve your input fps in HLAE or use mirv_sample_sps ( I used 1200 when has low space hdd & mirv_movie_fps 300/240/210) & mirv_sample_enable options
For calculate your future mblur frame blending size ( how many frames will be in one frame of finally result ) just devide %hlae fps% by %project fps x slowmo percent%
And no need use NTSC fps in sony vegas, You can write your own fps for project. YouTube like 30fps, and every video w/ higher fps cut down to 30.
Also in vdub you can change fps as your mirv fps in "video -> frame rate" It make blending in Vegas automaticly, when you add video into project. Its save your time.
P.S. Never use RipBot, but i sure believe MeGUI better.

P.S.S. Here you can find some vid encoded by me w/ hq links, if that quality interesting, you can ask in that topic.
Good luck.

you need more antialiasing

Thanks for suggestions.

@PhinX

for 400fps uncompressed movie, quality needs to be much, much cleanest.

@musaka

Antialising?


i have question, in HLAE i've recorded movie with 1280x800 resolution, and in Sony Vegas switched off Maintence Ratio, this action impair the quality or not?

@Nannou, beatiful video's quality. Share with codecs / settings?

Thanks!

Originally posted by Torex-):-D

Originally posted by then0r3k

Thanks for suggestions.

@PhinX

for 400fps uncompressed movie, quality needs to be much, much cleanest.

@musaka

Antialising?


i have question, in HLAE i've recorded movie with 1280x800 resolution, and in Sony Vegas switched off Maintence Ratio, this action impair the quality or not?

@Nannou, beatiful video's quality. Share with codecs / settings?

Thanks!

high fps =/= good quality
i used to think ~120fps is enough, and yes it is, tho nowdays we have much more powerful pc's, so i guess 200-300~ is enough, high fps just makes more realistic or more eye catchy motion blur

antialiasing dno really how to describe it, tho by using it ur edges will be smoothered(?lol?)
describtion pic: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/Anti-aliasing.jpg
you can find this setting at your graphics card control panel
also if u would look around youtube you can notice that still most of kzmoviemakers arent using it, (im not up to date with newcomers of xj by this day, so it might be changed)

and please dont use shit ton of effects on your moviemaking matterial, it will only bring down quality of your footage
for instance look at old 8ball1 clips, quality is decent even after all these years, and the effects he used u can count them on your fingers

For a good quality under all circumstances, config your GPU for the best quality in 3D-settings, capture everything with "mirv_movie_fps 600" and do not compress your video too much!

-> HLAE input capture in, use 600 fps
-> VirtualDub render to .avi, use 600 fps
-> Vegas rendering, use 30 fps .avi uncompressed
-> Encode in Legion, 30fps & ~ 7000/auto bitrate (ndR's tutorial, skip the Lagarith part)

That's what I've done in most of my clips. Sometimes instead of using Legion, I do the renders with different h.264/x264 encoders, for example ffdshow (old version, Vegas GUI) and original x264 via plain CMD.

It's always better with higher fps, I've used 900 and 1200 as well. But anyways everything above should be more than enough to encode a video in very high quality.

Originally posted by Torex-):-D

if u want to get good results dont rely on any guides or so,
test everything by yourself

Hey, why record in 200/300 FPS if you are not going to do slow motion in your movie?

I usually record at 30 FPS, and render to .wmv at 30 FPS. But if I want to do slow motion in some part, I just record it in 300 FPS.

Well, I gonna need do some test to be sure.

ndR, nice tut and nice quality, dude!
But do this test: On you video, click pause many times (or just one), you will see a poor blur, or weird motion ( I don't know how to call it). On my videos, there is no that thing, how could I combine this? Your quality is just amazing, but I really don't like that thing about pausing and see that.

Here an image about what I'm talking: http://i45.tinypic.com/123l4qq.png