"kreedz is dying" wtf, shut up
What is up with all this talk?
I think this talk is all silly, by you guys talking like this is the reason kreedz is dying. Frustating the admins, and manipulates other users and players to believe in your bullshit. Show more gratitude to the community imo.
I haven't seen one legit contention on why kreedz is dying. All I've seen is some speculations that ppl are cheating and that's why kreedz is dying and yet I have not seen any kind of evidence on the ppl that are accused. Ofcourse the cheating subject should be discussed but all you do is to throw out your accusations without providing, as I said earlier, any kind of evidence.
Lagster made quite a good thread that is justified regarding the cheating subject. Check it out here: http://xtreme-jumps.eu/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?333375.0#post_333511
I just wanted to put down some thoughts on the current debate.
Thanks for me, have a good day.
Yours sincerely, WeMeRA
It's just less active...
It's summer too :D:D, ppl are enjoing theyr free time, not playing kz :D
15/08/2013 14:48(edited 18/08/2013 21:33)Originally posted by KkassuIt's summer too :D:D, ppl are enjoing theyr free time, not playing kz :D
It's summer, people enjoy playing kz in their spare from school time.
See what I did there?
As long as china exists on this planet kreedz will never die, china has 300 000 kz players waiting to rape every aspect of XJ and XJ wr/s. just wait
Originally posted by killahurtZAs long as china exists on this planet kreedz will never die, china has 300 000 kz players waiting to rape every aspect of XJ and XJ wr/s. just wait
stats pulled out of my ass just arived:
Aliens just found out about KZ and are starting to geek the shit out of kzno_xtremeblock. They don't have the same regime as us, so they don't need to sleep. Also they have 100% efficient energy (took from their 3 Suns), so they literally have nothing to worry about energy (until one of the Suns will implode and die).
The person they've first contacted was LyNn, so through him they're raping XJ right now. That's why his World Records look like this, aliens actually see life in a much faster pace, so KZ seems very slow to them. They have literally created hundreds of offsprings playing 36/9 (their planet makes a full rotation in 36 hours and they've calculated the year as 12 weeks of 9 days).
Beware, LEWLY, kzno_xtremeblock is currently their number one target. Right now near 100 little creeps play the game trying to beat it near perfection.
They also have a special department beating Cosy records, but that's not our problem, here on XJ, we must focus on keeping our World Records. We must save our species.
Record times don't really matter that much.
The people behind them do. And most current recorders are just meh. I guess it would be more appropriate to say that the community is dead.
19/08/2013 03:59holy shit, nuclear, what did you smoke?
LEWLY, you should be proud on yourself, aliens are trying to beat your records, that's big deal...
Originally posted by killahurtZAs long as china exists on this planet kreedz will never die, china has 300 000 kz players waiting to rape every aspect of XJ and XJ wr/s. just wait
kz china is for that:D
And Deathclaw, is it just me or i rather waste my spare time with my friends/family than playing kz? :D
19/08/2013 14:13Originally posted by nucLeaROriginally posted by killahurtZAs long as china exists on this planet kreedz will never die, china has 300 000 kz players waiting to rape every aspect of XJ and XJ wr/s. just wait
stats pulled out of my ass just arived:
Aliens just found out about KZ and are starting to geek the shit out of kzno_xtremeblock. They don't have the same regime as us, so they don't need to sleep. Also they have 100% efficient energy (took from their 3 Suns), so they literally have nothing to worry about energy (until one of the Suns will implode and die).
The person they've first contacted was LyNn, so through him they're raping XJ right now. That's why his World Records look like this, aliens actually see life in a much faster pace, so KZ seems very slow to them. They have literally created hundreds of offsprings playing 36/9 (their planet makes a full rotation in 36 hours and they've calculated the year as 12 weeks of 9 days).
Beware, LEWLY, kzno_xtremeblock is currently their number one target. Right now near 100 little creeps play the game trying to beat it near perfection.
They also have a special department beating Cosy records, but that's not our problem, here on XJ, we must focus on keeping our World Records. We must save our species.
LyNn, the last son of Krypton. He shifted his supernatural abilities in the baleful direction and his eyes are set to bear down our civilization. I hope she has enough strength to resist the menace.
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i must say that many chinese children have incredible energy .they seem like they don't need to study in senior high school and just play computer .i'm really worry about their grade in school.they may fail to go to university... in china it is very easy to study in university
26/08/2013 15:57just dont count me as an active guy anymore even when i am writing stuff for cc.
i was active since the beginning when kreedz started to distribute kzmaps and i have seen the up and downs of KZ and even the HIGHS.
i have seen the annoying public troubles with ljstats, where only the jumpers where staying on the ground to improve their stats.
and i saw the start up of the checkpoint and timer system on pawn systems.
On the start of KZ we only had just servers with maps like boulder_b01 or bean maps and only a handful of people could do them because they could handle proper strafes or they could manage W-Strafes so perfectly that it would had count as a normal strafe for the engine.
Slowly the server evolved with scouts to make the jumping easier and after months of popularity since we got maps around 2-3months basis someone started to create a checkpoint system and on the same time KZmaps brought with their servers the timer public in.
After that the scene got an enormously boost which was unnormal. Jumpers from all over the world had joined the internationl communitys on XJ and KZmaps.
Custom mappers had been given the oppertunity to create maps with a small checksystem by Kreedz himself to add the timer.
after years kreedz stopped and gave it up to kzmaps and later on the fusion between kzmaps and xj was complete.
this one was the highest point of development in the kzscene and KZ was in a point where innovation was met from different cultures since this was the beginning where national communities where rising like sunshine in the morning.
but soon after many structure changes of mapchecking criteria and some other things of lacking innovation.
the community was or better said ins still stucking in a loop.
the community lost many good jumpers and designers but hasn't recovered from ever but hopefully someday will come.
the thing is Goldsource or better known as Half-life is old and tho the system can't even be changed like Quake since its not open source.
so the designers are limited in the innovations. but still we can create some awesome maps or jumptechnics (it will come trust me) since we just only use movement not just like defrag where movement and weapons had been using.
But just get back to the scene. We just had over 1000 kz/custom map servers on the highest point. But nowdays look in the server browser use the custom tags or kztags we will just see only a handful of servers which we can count from just one hand off...
there is nothing new nothing interested we are just stuck in a loop where we can't recover from since the lack of innovations.
No new jump technics which would evolve the community
No new outstanding maps with new technics
No new mapgenre like axn maps, ljmaps, bhopmaps, climbmaps
tho in a point of view records are just beaten by miliseconds and so the records will be just slowly dieing on one day too because they can't get to a point where the miliseconds cant be beaten anymore.
even we can't say its a fault by admins or by the community. its just had happen one day or another since it was just a community driven custommap system for CS.
if it was a mod we could had changed it alot...
but to be honest KZ cant be the same anymore like it was on the highest point near 2007-2008.
still the community can evolve to alot more. its just comes all around the innovation of the designers or the users of the community.
But besides that, we're about to beat the ultimate record, having some of the BEST demos ever, being beat, while China is slowly creeping further and further into the scene.
I've been here since forever, those "days" back in the day, that everyone seems to talk about are so hyped up on false facts that it makes me sick.
KZ is strong right now, champions continue to grace us with great demos. Lynn, gene, flibo, pizza, lewly and so on. We get lots of material.
KZ never dies, it just goes to hell, finds a new champion and respawns. I've said this a million times.
hey and deMolite, people have been saying that records are unbeatable since forever. EVERY record is beatable and will get beat again.
26/08/2013 18:17(edited 26/08/2013 18:20)thats for sure scary, champions come and goes but records to be beaten will take longer. if we look back jumpers could beat it in half the time. nowdays you have to practice alot.
for miliseconds.
egg beating a map in the past in 1-2hours and nowdays you need to invest longer.
thats what i meant :)
good i have writen it a bit falsely on top yea you are right. best example is synergy after the first demo its unbeatable and how often is it not beaten? For jumpers its now more to be patient and practice.
When I reached top 5 like 5-6 years ago, I spend many many days, sometime weeks on one record. It differs from talent to talent, but through time players evolve too. Let me put it like this, 5 years ago, doing 250 was imposibruhh (but really hard) nowadays people practice better and learn it easier because the bar has been raised so much by the current and past jumpers. I do not know by experience wether it's harder to beat a record today than it was yesterday, but even though our times sucked, back when I played, we still spend shitloads of hours, days and weeks to capture these maps. I'm no longer active either, I only scroll through this website, which I'll continue to do, and from my perspective we just had one of the best releases to date with a lot of different climbers, we get a lot of community info, jump videos and tournaments with prize money and new maps all around and still people can't seem to talk about anything else than the lack of activity, I really dont see it to be honest. Then people complain about that the champions of this era is too good and LEWLY cannot be beat and LYNN is cheating. When will it end, I mean come on, if you like KZ and someone is providing whats the problem? You know what I'm saying demo?
27/08/2013 01:41(edited 27/08/2013 01:49)Gaming furniture was crappy back then. In 2004, if I'm not mistaken, not even everyone had optical sensor mice and those who had, they didn't realize how crappy those optics were. Giantbean map type prevailed and video cards were suffering from it, they are even now. The key techniques were yet to be discovered. It's all the opposite now, limits have been pushed a lot since then. It's easier once the road is explored for you, and we have gone very far.
To answer when recording was harder - back then we didn't have that good equipment, now the limits are several times higher.
I can understand your point of view, but personally I feel like the scene is dying, too. Accepting demos of obvious cheaters like Lynn and unbanning cheaters to let them submit demos again pretty much ruined XJ to me. Obviously cheeated demos won't be always detected so it is just a matter of time until the next cheater gets busted or re-busted.
Besides that, the community nowadays is all about performance only. Anybody who's lj distance is bellow 256 or can't beat az_degiptianez in 2 minutes is a noob. It is not about fun anymore. I rarely visit XJ anymore, because the negativity is too big imo.
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