Count-Jump + Jump-Bug
Count-Jumps slows players down to, but not as much as bhop, cjts are longer then simple long-jumps. I had practise my count-jumps (i'm noob in it...) when i accidently made a jump-bug to. Pressing just W, I made a double-duck, than holded duck again and at one time unducked and jumped, at end ducked again.. Lj plugin sayed that I made 250 unit-jump (no straifs and no prestraif, just W). Is it possible that it's a new tehnic, or I'm just to noobed to realize, that it was just a good count-jump? P.S. I'm sorry 4 my bad english. =P
lj plugins lie :/
i never really jumped more that 240 units, and sometimes it tells me that ive jumped 247 or 250.. :E
[ Edited Mon Apr 23 2007, 08:14AM ]
No, they don't lie. At the eage your speed is getting lower, so you fink that you didn't jumped at normal ground that distance as it sayed. They don't lie. It's like high-jumps and long-jumps.
That LJ plugin isnt corect, if u would be active Xj user, u wouldn know from head admins, that the plugin isnt corect.
Yes, but cold plugin at 1 time make 2 mistakes with distance and maxpseed (373)?
23/04/2007 12:45the plugin isnt correct imo
i often make 280+ prestrafes thats imp
Hm..the ljguide may make little mistakes like +/- some units, but if you made a usuall 235 lj under normal conditiones it won't say 250 :/
Maybe NumB found sth new, dunno
23/04/2007 14:57It's much easier to make big LJ's (240+) on ex. a 220 block, than make ex. 242 on kz_longjumps, because you have to jump at the very edge to jump those distances...
Sometimes the plugin fucks a bit up, have jumped 219 on a 220 block and 238 on a 239 block, and my LJ record is 241, but the plugin have said I jumped 248 sometimes.. I don't think it's correct.
But you must have kind of felt if you really jumped 250. I can usually tell if it lies or not. If ex. didn't feel you had a good pre-(or air-)strafe, then it's probably wrong.
I think you should not care so much of what that plugin says. What counts is if you MADE a jump that was 250 units. Then it's not fake.
Also sometimes if you run of the platform and bhop on the ground up to the other platform the plugin will count the whole thing as a jump. Which of course gives really big jumps. Maybe you did something like that.
236 units on 240 units block, all right, the plugin is 100% correct...
try to standup bhop a lil bit and it'll say u units till 270 units and more -.- i think u had the same effect when u did that "weird" cj
[ Edited Mon Apr 23 2007, 06:54PM ]
My plugin isn't accurate.
[ Edited Mon Apr 23 2007, 07:17PM ]
Well i have tried longjumps in fatalis's server and like 3-4 times it said that I did 254+ and i dont think i can do that so it must be wrong
yeap the freaking plugin lies :D I remember that when i jumped 244 in some server it said that I've made 251 ?!
Hmm, it has showed 239 when i have jumped 240, but that is the worst so far :/
Plugin can tell less distance, cuz you jumped not exect at the age, but a little further, and tuched ground not exect on the eage, but some units untill it. In map creating program 1 player is 64 (i fink =P) units fat :D , so if you will make a perfect countjump at the eagebug it can say that you jumped 190 when you jumped 253.(9) on a block. But i am sure, that if you'll jump when the hl engine didn't get you tuch at with the ground, you will get extra speed. E.x. speed plugin and eagbug: max fall speed is 2000, if you'll have straif speed 100 and fall speed 2000 it will be 2100, but after getting eagebug your speed has to be 100, yes? But it isn't - your speed is 400+ at first second (when fall speed is ~25, so your straif speed is ~375+). So do you want to tell me that speed plugin lies all the time?
[ Edited Thu Apr 26 2007, 02:27AM ]
Im (somewhat) new to the kz scene still, but I longjump all day lol. Im still trying to get better! But.. the plugin has only been off by 1 unit max for me, say 242 on a 243 block. And I jump "alot", so I dunno... Maybe it has to do something with settings.. o.O
i don't lj that much but when i made 246 (my record) it said i jumped 250. And for some reason my strafes and prestafe felt really good but i don't know if the script is off.
alot of times i jump lets say 240 and the script says 239. It happends alot where the script says i jumped shorter than the block i jumped on is.
The plugin will tell less distance if you jump off not facing the direction you would like to jump. Here is an example showing 225 on a 230 block. Without doing it too extremely.
I'm saying it 1 more time: e.x. if you jumped 240 plugin can say that you jumped 240-(player fatness*2), and it can say that you jumped more, cuz.. e.x. you normaly can jump ~240, and you jumped at the block 220 units, so what, so you will fink that you jumped exact 220 and not a unit more or ~240?
And now obout that bug - cs-engine is updaiting since the first version of counter-srike, but not changing fully. In cs 1.3 when bhoped you don't loose speed if you continue runing, cs was updaiting meny times... Now cs 1.6 is still is from cs 1.3-, but there is a slow down, BUT not in first moment when tuched the ground, cuz connecting to the ground you get extra speed - then engine dosn't detect that you were tuchning it. I am saying that surviving form realy high jumps, is if you will tuch the ground less then 1 moment, it dosn't need to be 4 units (eagebug) or jump-bug, it just needs to be 1 moment of tuch and then you die/loose speed. But that 1 moment cuz of a little slowdown at first engine (q3) was giving extra speed to player. So if you will have straif speed ~100 and make a bhop jumpe in that moment your speed will rise up.
26/04/2007 18:53well numb faker and noex have said that this plugin is not correct and who should we belive.
You some guy from lithuania who has 6 posts or the admins ?
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