Longjumps - The wider the harder?
11/05/2007 18:34Yo. I have been wondering about this for a while now, and there must be some good explanation for this, 'cause I personally think it's god damn weird.
It's about longjumps.. It's like they are much harder, if the block they are on are very wide.. Take the last jump of cg_brick for example.. That's like 238-242 or around there, right? Well, that jump is amazingly hard for me (have made it ONCE!), and if I go on kz_longjumps right after, go into 240-249, I can make 240-242 after some minutes.. Also the longjump room that starts with 232, 234, 236 etc. on kz_longjumps.. Those jumps also feel very hard for their lenght, while they are easy at 230-239 jumps.. And the ground floor there is also a little wider than the normal longjumps on that map. If you don't get a shit of this my conclusion is:
The wider a longjump's block is, the harder it is, of what I feel.
What's your experiences with this? Is this only me? 'Cause I think it's very weird..
- PuppetZ^
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11/05/2007 18:40well i agree with u, but i think its not harder cuz the cs engine or stuff like that, thats cuz u/me/anyone cant see the path where u must prestrafe ( or wtf ) cuz its wide as hell dunno if u understand it ;)
over and out ;)
Same for me... :(
I think it's something psychological...
someone said that the teleporters makes it harder to strafe, so the lj's become harder...
11/05/2007 19:12Hmm..
But go on with theories, and that stuff. :D
11/05/2007 19:44I think it's something psychological...
ye ye i tried to say the same ;)
respect :x
If you have alot of rutine on ljing its not anything harder with wide ljs...
11/05/2007 20:26Then it's probably the teleporters, as Z0ck3r say. That also makes sense, 'cause all the harder longjumps I know has a teleporter between the blocks.. Just never thought about it could be the teleporters..
I think it's something psychological...
agree
don't think that it have something to do with teleporters
i did on a map once i began a normal wide lj as on kz_longjumps with teleporter and a same length lj with teleporter but a wide one...
the wide one was much much harder for me
the normal one also with teleporter was same feeling for me as on kz_longjumps
so i think too that it have something psychological
11/05/2007 20:55Do you feel the exactly same airfriction on the longjumps with teleporter, and the ones without, troublemaker?
for me it feels same
but it is only a feeling
a wide, with or without telporter, feels hrder to me
for example
the lj in cfl_jost(_ez feels much harder for me than the same length in kz_longjumps
but on cfl_jost there isnt a teleporter there
im my feeling it is only psychological
but its just the feeling
i don't have engine, math stuffs or so for that
11/05/2007 21:11Wider lj blocks make you think you need to make your prestrafe wider and you lose speed and can't make as long a jump.
That's why kzno_longjumps > all
yes thats true.. but once you get use to them its the same.. i used to jump much better in longjump maps like kzno and kzfr longjumps.. but now i get use to kz_longjumps and its the same..
12/05/2007 00:15I think (and have always thought) that kz_longjumps was the map where the longjumps was easiest..
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]I think (and have always thought) that kz_longjumps was the map where the longjumps was easiest..
Well i think that the lj's on kz_stoneblock(h/ez) ar the easiest ones.
cuz at kz_longjumps i have only made 250, but on stoneblock i have made 255 like 15 times in a row. I dunno, it could just be that the jumps on stoneblock doesnt really is as long as the signs says. i mean like 255 is 245 and stuff like that. the mapper could of made some mistake when he/she made the map.
but thats just me.
FLR post a demo where u do 255 on stoneblock pls
Well i think that the lj's on kz_stoneblock(h/ez) ar the easiest ones.
cuz at kz_longjumps i have only made 250, but on stoneblock i have made 255 like 15 times in a row. I dunno, it could just be that the jumps on stoneblock doesnt really is as long as the signs says. i mean like 255 is 245 and stuff like that. the mapper could of made some mistake when he/she made the map.
but thats just me.
exact there are mistakes
255 on stoneblock is in real only a 245 jump
i did my first time 240 there
i went to 250 there @ fun and did it ^^
it felt that easy so i thought that there must be incorrect
some month later i saw that the 250 on stoneblock is a 240 and then i knew i did my first 240 then ^^
Maps where the units are incorect:
* kz_fairy_island - 220 (224), 222 (226), 224 (228), 228 (232), 232 (236), 236 (240), 238 (242), 240 (244)
* kz_stoneblock - 230 (220), 235 (225), 240 (230), 245 (235), 250 (240), 255 (245), 260 (250), 265 (255)
* kz_xj_brickjump - 224 (240), 232, 240 (224)
* kz_xj_ezbrickjump - 224 (240), 232, 240 (224)
* vee_nintendo - 208 (209), 216, 224, 231 (232), 236, 240, 246, 248, 250 (252)
look here
http://xtreme-jumps.eu/content.php?content.8#longjump_maps
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12/05/2007 02:04Besides, on the stoneblock ljs you can easily land to the side and you slide right onto the block :P
I have problems with wide ljs too, its something about my pre, but not wide as in cg_brick.
Wide as in kz_sandblock, all those ljs and the 240 in towerblock_h is amazingly hard to me, but i lucked in my latest demo as you'll see
I think its like murvel said...!
[ Edited Sat May 12 2007, 06:25AM ]
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