Longjump X-Factor (?)
Originally posted by SpanioluWell i was long jumping a few days ago I saw that when you are ducking you don't have to press any other key. i mean you have to do the strafes and then press oly duck : nothing else. when i did the 252 stats with 333 speed..... i pressed A when i was ducking and that was slowing me (I think). I dont know... :(
when you have pressed duck, you must do slower curves (smaller angle of deflection), so if you were doing more curved curves^^ it evoked your speed loss, you could get even bigger speed doing smaller strafe..
nice thread :) much good thoughts here. I've also wondered the same if there's some "unknown" factor. Many of you said strafes sync, ducking, the angle when u jump and start to strafe and so on.
Maybe the X-factor are these all together (?) not just only one factor, if you understand what I mean. :D
then offtopic, like always :D
Mehz is admin here right? a few months ago I said how XJ isn't the same it was few years ago, this is what I ment, admins are childish at some point, like "I tell my opinion if I want to, if you don't like it, then fuck off, I don't give a shit what you say"
like lalle said, if you don't like these threads then why the fuck you read them and say your childish comments here...
Ok now nikke is quiet for the next 3 weeks and after them complains about something :) but more threads like this pls!
Originally posted by NiconeNnice thread :) much good thoughts here. I've also wondered the same if there's some "unknown" factor. Many of you said strafes sync, ducking, the angle when u jump and start to strafe and so on.
Maybe the X-factor are these all together (?) not just only one factor, if you understand what I mean. :D
then offtopic, like always :D
Mehz is admin here right? a few months ago I said how XJ isn't the same it was few years ago, this is what I ment, admins are childish at some point, like "I tell my opinion if I want to, if you don't like it, then fuck off, I don't give a shit what you say"
like lalle said, if you don't like these threads then why the fuck you read them and say your childish comments here...
Ok now nikke is quiet for the next 3 weeks and after them complains about something :) but more threads like this pls!
+1
this is a forum where to talk about jumps.... and those ppl are talking about longJUMPS. if you are nerved by all those threads create a new forum for longjump questions/talks/tips etc.
even if admins updated the rules they forgot some points
heres a solution: stop ljing 24/7.
thats just flame and should be forbidden in all forums. if you dont have to say anything about the questions of this thread just shut up and stop reading when you recognize that this thread is about longjumping.
sry for ot
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mhh... when i try to lj i try to jump of the edge in a 45° angle to get a big first strafe. and after that just strafe. as many as you can and make them as big as you can. but u have to figure out what makes you jump better. maybe 6 big strafes are better for you than 7 small fast strafes. after that duck as late as you can. when i try to jump as i posted i often 250+ stats. to do this on block is more difficult cause blocks can destroy your pre. im used to have a wide block to do a big prestrafe so i needed my time to do 252+ stats on kz_longjumps blocks (kz_christmas blocks ftw btw ^^)
Originally posted by NiconeNnice thread :) much good thoughts here. I've also wondered the same if there's some "unknown" factor. Many of you said strafes sync, ducking, the angle when u jump and start to strafe and so on.
Maybe the X-factor are these all together (?) not just only one factor, if you understand what I mean. :D
then offtopic, like always :D
Mehz is admin here right? a few months ago I said how XJ isn't the same it was few years ago, this is what I ment, admins are childish at some point, like "I tell my opinion if I want to, if you don't like it, then fuck off, I don't give a shit what you say"
like lalle said, if you don't like these threads then why the fuck you read them and say your childish comments here...
Ok now nikke is quiet for the next 3 weeks and after them complains about something :) but more threads like this pls!
Nice that some agreed <3
Also,.. like u said, i believe that is all those factors compained that makes a uber LJ, also the thiming in each transition between each factor. Such as strafes, sync etcetc.
only one good thing is to record some different jumps with keys and speed plugins and watch them in slowmo. It helped me to find my trajectory for me, but low maxspeed. (rope (distance draw) in lj plugin helps sometimes too)
and remember maxspeed and prestrafe is nothing against trajectory and strafing productivity.
Don't waste your time in air ;) - you have to gain speed while flying
i dunno but i dont think prestrafe affects the total jump distance if your pre is 270-276 to much because i jumped 250 STATS though with 269 pre and 328 maxspeed with 6 strafes -.- i dont remember the sync though sry.
so i'd have to say a maxspeed of 325-335 with small strafes would give the best results?
Originally posted by Fact or Fictiononly one good thing is to record some different jumps with keys and speed plugins and watch them in slowmo. It helped me to find my trajectory for me, but low maxspeed. (rope (distance draw) in lj plugin helps sometimes too)
and remember maxspeed and prestrafe is nothing against trajectory and strafing productivity.
Don't waste your time in air ;) - you have to gain speed while flying
if anyone wants to know... my 252 demo which i posted in ljs thread is recorded with showkeys (shows keys and speed)
Never done 254 stats with 6 strafes + 340 maxspeed + 90 sync.
Done 254 stats many times with 9 strafes + 320 maxspeed + 70 sync.
Deadlyshot did 254 with 6 strafes 330 speed 273 or 274 pretsrafe and 80 sync i think. I have the demo if u want it.
Of course you can do 254 with 6 strafes, you can also do 255 if not 256. I've done it once a while ago when i did circles on stats ofc (and ye I got demo). It's just that if you can handle 7-8 strafes it's a lot easier :)..
Distance: 254.351440 MaxSpeed: 329.012908 PreStrafe: 274.852416 Strafes: 6 Sync: 84
but ive got with that stats 251 :(
Distance: 252.535964 MaxSpeed: 336.729858 PreStrafe: 275.377685 Strafes: 6 Sync: 81
lol cheche ... check this one.
aint 252 to low for those stats ? imo..
Originally posted by SikarFTWDistance: 252.535964 MaxSpeed: 336.729858 PreStrafe: 275.377685 Strafes: 6 Sync: 81
lol cheche ... check this one.
aint 252 to low for those stats ? imo..
wha? no, stats matter as much as shit.
06/01/2008 20:30It matters as much as feacal matter.
already got 253 stats with 5 strafes and 255 with 6 strafes. no proof but its possible to do at least 254 with 5 strafes and 255 with 6.
ofc, drewbiE did 6strafes on his 254 demo? :o
one thing i dont get is that a lj script that does the SAME thing everytime, doesnt make the same stats, that might have something to do with it.
ohh thats wright zeov i think... if the script does always the same, makes different stats so : the script does always the same strafes so the x-factor aren't the strafes.. is other thing like ducking at the last moment or jumping at the right angle .. we have oly 2 factors right now :D
Dont you GUYS UNDERSTAND? MAXSPEED is the highest speed u get IN AIR.. then YOUR MAXSPEED could be 320 all the time ... and you can still get example 252... and like r3bel has 345 maxspeed, his maxspeed could go to like 310 for a while and thats reason WHY DIDNT he GET something like 255...... OK?
JOEL OUT! at last after writing this löl
[blockquote]Dont you GUYS UNDERSTAND? MAXSPEED is the highest speed u get IN AIR.. then YOUR MAXSPEED could be 320 all the time ... and you can still get example 252... and like r3bel has 345 maxspeed, his maxspeed could go to like 310 for a while and thats reason WHY DIDNT he GET something like 255...... OK?
JOEL OUT! at last after writing this löl[/blockquote]
That I tryed to said...
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