Why is the server 90% bhop?
When I first started playing in 2006 this server was about 90% normal climbing maps and now it's the other way around. Everytime I join it's a bhop map. Earlier I saw a normal map on the serverlist but by the time I had joined it was bhop again.
What happened?
26/05/2008 07:59people are voting for bhopmaps instead of climbmaps ?
At moment I think the server is only running the new maps, unless someone nominate one oldschool map if wanted.
its just that 'noobs', ie people who dont know any maps, just press the number that has 'bhop' in it during the mapvote
Almost all the new players just like to do bhopping and ljing/cjing, cause they're the easiest things to learn. I know many people who don't like kz maps just because you may have to start the map all over again if you fall.
(KZFi server ftw anyways :P)
i recognized that bhop-map thingy too^^
but if the newbs vote for it you can't do anything..
there's sometimes the problem that they vote the hardest maps, with "extreme" in the name, for example, and then leave the server because they can't finish it ..
Yee well bhop is ez to learn to some degree. But to really master the bhop technique and be fast in a long run is a diffrent story. Well I prefer climbmaps, but i think most people doesnt, and bhop maps is ez to make a run on even if you dont know the map. Climb maps can be lame for those who doesnt know the way and have to stop every block to see where to go next. Thats why i think atleast.
CLIMB > BHOP
For me bhopping is a lot trickier than basic jumping.
27/05/2008 13:28Ye what's that? Bhop is more advanced than normal climbing :F There's just so many new bhop maps around now, the newbies don't know the old maps etc.
trew trew... but bhops maps are awesome.. love HARD bhops map that practice Stand-Ups and stuff :D
In 24 hours:
30% for kz_shrubhop_h/ez
20% for kzru_pharaonrun
30% for others bhop map
18% for kz maps
02% for long jump maps
27/05/2008 18:34thats why the newsqlers thinks only bhops are kreedzmaps now. because to many mappers are making bhopmaps.
Aww, all the good maps are on the cupserver and it's always locked.
As dEMolite said.. the mappers at this point are only making bhop maps with kz, instead of instant kz, why?
28/05/2008 11:32(edited 28/05/2008 11:33)its much easier to create a bhopmap then a normal kz map with much environment. most of the bhopmaps have a loooong floor with many edges so on...-> perfect fps.....big climbmaps dont have visblockers so its much harder to create a good and huge climbmap with good fps and a great theme. most of the bhopmaps dont have a real theme...they are only jumpbased
Originally posted by lalle`Yee well bhop is ez to learn to some degree. But to really master the bhop technique and be fast in a long run is a diffrent story. Well I prefer climbmaps, but i think most people doesnt, and bhop maps is ez to make a run on even if you dont know the map. Climb maps can be lame for those who doesnt know the way and have to stop every block to see where to go next. Thats why i think atleast.
CLIMB > BHOP
I never said I was desperate for NEW kz climb maps, there are hundreds of perfectly good ones that already exist. Why not put 'em on the server?
Originally posted by VyrusAlmost all the new players just like to do bhopping and ljing/cjing, cause they're the easiest things to learn. I know many people who don't like kz maps just because you may have to start the map all over again if you fall.
(KZFi server ftw anyways :P)
1. How is ljing/cjing/bhopping easier than normal jumping? Surely you need to learn basic jumping before you can do these.
2. You don't need to start over on any climb map, that's what checkpoints are for...
Originally posted by AlMightyBobI never said I was desperate for NEW kz climb maps, there are hundreds of perfectly good ones that already exist. Why not put 'em on the server?Originally posted by VyrusAlmost all the new players just like to do bhopping and ljing/cjing, cause they're the easiest things to learn. I know many people who don't like kz maps just because you may have to start the map all over again if you fall.
(KZFi server ftw anyways :P)
1. How is ljing/cjing/bhopping easier than normal jumping? Surely you need to learn basic jumping before you can do these.
2. You don't need to start over on any climb map, that's what checkpoints are for...
1. You don't get angry if you fail 1 longjump say 10 times, if you fail a jump in a kz map that is pretty far from the start 10 times you can become very frustrated. That's the main reason why ljing/cjing/bhopping is "easier" to become good at than jumping in kz maps.
2. Checkpoints are cheating.
Checkpoints are cheating in official demos but new players won't be involved with demo recording at all so doing it casually in the server is a good thing. That's how you learn real kz climbing - with checkpoints!
29/05/2008 02:06Originally posted by FragMcCrackenits much easier to create a bhopmap then a normal kz map with much environment. most of the bhopmaps have a loooong floor with many edges so on...-> perfect fps.....big climbmaps dont have visblockers so its much harder to create a good and huge climbmap with good fps and a great theme. most of the bhopmaps dont have a real theme...they are only jumpbased
perfectly said. i couldn't write it better :)
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