Lets go mappers, read this! (life botton)
i suggest this in another topic, but for more audience, i created this thread.
Originally posted by ikm[...]Mappers should use "life auto regeneration" and if you fall and lost 100+ life, u die. Taking 10.000 life u dont have to do any jump bug or edge bugs and this tecniques is transforming in USELESS tecniques in a run.
Originally posted by NumB[...]mappers shold create a map with eb/jb/sb in a normal way, but it's another discution...
- discution started -
18/08/2008 19:23Uhm.. And what exactly is the discussion here?
Maps with edgebug/jumbug "shortcuts" already have either auto regeneration or no extra hp.
But you just want more maps with edgebug/jumpbug shortcuts?
Originally posted by wRath`Maps with edgebug/jumbug "shortcuts" already have either auto regeneration or no extra hp.
of course, without life dont need a eb/jb :)
Originally posted by wRath`But you just want more maps with edgebug/jumpbug shortcuts?
Yeah, its true too.
A shortcut is the last thing a mapper wants in his map, to skip part of his well built map, but mabye a eb/jb as a real part of the map, like cg_hitnrun.
Umm your first post should give a better explanation what we're discussing.
18/08/2008 20:35(edited 18/08/2008 20:36)Igge he want to have trigger_hurt as autoheal in all the newmaps without the 10000 healthcharger. Because of the eb/jb shortcuts. But really? It is useless because all maps where the eb/jb shortcuts are have no 10000 healthcharger and have autoheal in it. So the discussion is already over, because the threadstarter didn't search informations or even looked up on all the maps.
18/08/2008 21:16Originally posted by dEMoliteIgge he want to have trigger_hurt as autoheal in all the newmaps without the 10000 healthcharger. Because of the eb/jb shortcuts. But really? It is useless because all maps where the eb/jb shortcuts are have no 10000 healthcharger and have autoheal in it. So the discussion is already over, because the threadstarter didn't search informations or even looked up on all the maps.
+1
Well I can't see why trigger_hurt should be added to the new maps.
It's obvious you're not a good mapper. By letting players only have 100 hp you can make the jumping more realistic and also the map more realistic.
Mostly as dEMolite said. Useless thread without thoughts.
But rly - make some maps like that. Only dont make the eb/jb/sb 2 ez - make it like in kz_6fd_volcano - you have 2 make nice strafes 2 get it.
would give jb and ebs a bigger role in some maps as g33k sc.... mh i think it should just eb the mappers chocie whether they add any kind of heal or not into there map
18/08/2008 22:15Edgebugs and jumpbugs are really ghey, and they're pretty much more about luck than skill.
Agree with that why would anyone make a shortcut to his own map. rad0n did that continuously though...
Edgebugs and jumpbugs are really ghey, and they're pretty much more about luck than skill.
I can say the same thing obout lj/cj!
Agree with that why would anyone make a shortcut to his own map. rad0n did that continuously though...
I'm not talking obout sc - I mean obout the eb/jb/sb in original way! Start, eb/jb/sb, hp booser, climb/bhop, finish.
18/08/2008 22:31Originally posted by NumB
Edgebugs and jumpbugs are really ghey, and they're pretty much more about luck than skill.
I can say the same thing obout lj/cj!
Agree with that why would anyone make a shortcut to his own map. rad0n did that continuously though...
I'm not talking obout sc - I mean obout the eb/jb/sb in original way! Start, eb/jb/sb, hp booser, climb/bhop, finish.
Sounds a bit like cg_hitnrun to me. But what's the point of the edgebug? It just wastes your time imo.
19/08/2008 01:07Edgebugs and jumpbugs are uber random, so comparing them to lj and cj is not right.
Well I can consider this idea in future maps(if there will be any)
If mappers deliberately add edgebug/jumpbug shortcuts to their new maps it would only be a question of luck to get the wr. It will introduce more different names to the record demos section but will it be fun to jump the maps?
19/08/2008 01:53really? it is getting offtopic because eb/jb ways wasn't the real topic.
Last but not least: its only the mappers choice what they are doing...
Originally posted by dEMolitereally? it is getting offtopic because eb/jb ways wasn't the real topic.
Last but not least: its only the mappers choice what they are doing...
yes and no... you are right when you say it is the mapper choice since there is no special rule for it but this thread is not becoming offtopic since we are just thinking about the changes... a hp booster means that some jb, eb mistake mght be done without any problems, a map where a eb, jb sc is found without any hp booster means ppl have to geek it = try it many times and luck once the eb/jb :)
the func_wall thread was an attempt to get more fps and a lower ping on common maps since numb (and me) never heared of polys etc in mapping and many mappers did not know about entitys sending a bunch of data to the player once a frame but anyway, this thread is just about a stupid rule which is and was always a question every mapper had to ask himself... it is there opinion and sounds to me like xj will add a rule to forbid all kinds of map except cavemaps xD
Sure we aren't talking obout eb/jb/sb in evry new map - only in some maps. But omg. Why when it comes to eb/jb/sb - evrybody is saying "luck, luck - only f*ucking luck!". Don't wanna be annoing but, omg, look at me - if it's only luck - i'm the most lucky person in the world. It needs the same skills as some lj - you are just not so good in this, cuz no1 ever geeked or atleast trained it like I did. For me it's ezer to do do tripple eb ending with jb then 249lj. I'm not saying anytning when in map I see an lj more then 245, so let me ask, what on earth you don't like here!? There already was one map with uber-ez eb in standart way in the start - it hadn't got accepted... Why I hadn't understood - evrything was mapped currectly. I can only guess that it didn't cuz of the uber-ez eb in the start. And what it proves? It proves, that xj is only some stupid lj g33king. Omg, isn't it time 2 get good kz name back (what to talk obout good mappers name...)!? Don't forget, that the best and most popular maps were made by www.kreedz.com, and cuz they care not only obout lj!
[blockquote]Omg, isn't it time 2 get good kz name back (what to talk obout good mappers name...)!? Don't forget, that the best and most popular maps were made by www.kreedz.com, and cuz they care not only obout lj![/blockquote]
Good words NumB but I don't think thats the main reason why the maps are most popular. When I play the risk, a2 and kreedz maps I don't get the feeling that these maps are so good because there are no longjumps in them. Don't forget the time these mappers spend on the maps! I like the risk and a2 maps because they are so well made. I like the kreedz maps because they are oldschool.
From offtopic to ontopic. A mapper also needs to think what kind of people he or she is mapping for. I don't think a mapper wants to spend alot of time to make a map for eb/jb geeks because these geeks are not many. I can't speak for everyone but if I made a new map I would rather add lj/cj shortcuts than eb/jb shortcuts. The reason is because I want to reach as many people as possible. Back in time when the lj geeks were babies there were no reason to add a 245 jump because no one were able to jump that far. Nowadays you can add longjumps to make more people geek your map. 245 units is not hard with practice and can be added to a map without a problem. In the future ljs might be forgotten and people will complain about all edgebug geeks. Just a thought.
19/08/2008 19:04(edited 19/08/2008 19:06)Originally posted by NumBSure we aren't talking obout eb/jb/sb in evry new map - only in some maps. But omg. Why when it comes to eb/jb/sb - evrybody is saying "luck, luck - only f*ucking luck!". Don't wanna be annoing but, omg, look at me - if it's only luck - i'm the most lucky person in the world. It needs the same skills as some lj - you are just not so good in this, cuz no1 ever geeked or atleast trained it like I did. For me it's ezer to do do tripple eb ending with jb then 249lj. I'm not saying anytning when in map I see an lj more then 245, so let me ask, what on earth you don't like here!? There already was one map with uber-ez eb in standart way in the start - it hadn't got accepted... Why I hadn't understood - evrything was mapped currectly. I can only guess that it didn't cuz of the uber-ez eb in the start. And what it proves? It proves, that xj is only some stupid lj g33king. Omg, isn't it time 2 get good kz name back (what to talk obout good mappers name...)!? Don't forget, that the best and most popular maps were made by www.kreedz.com, and cuz they care not only obout lj!
Go make xtreme-edgebugs.eu
WTF! We only care about lj? That's what this community seems to care the least of.
The old good kz would be back if mappers make edgebug shortcuts in their maps? Wait... WHAT? That just ruins all the fun for normal climbers, who don't "geek edgebugs".
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