Lets go mappers, read this! (life botton)

Originally posted by SchlumPF

it is there opinion and sounds to me like xj will add a rule to forbid all kinds of map except cavemaps xD

Originally posted by NumB

Omg, isn't it time 2 get good kz name back (what to talk obout good mappers name...)!? Don't forget, that the best and most popular maps were made by www.kreedz.com, and cuz they care not only obout lj!

Originally posted by Flibo

The old good kz would be back if mappers make edgebug shortcuts in their maps? Wait... WHAT? That just ruins all the fun for normal climbers, who don't "geek edgebugs".

Originally posted by ikm

No flibo. Numb is right, But you all are thinking in all maps have eb doesnt have hp_booster. Of course its right, cuz why you need a eb and jb on a map with 10000 hp??

Of course the maps are more realistic when you only have your 100 hp. If this is how the mapper want it to be why the hell would they add a edgebug shortcut to it? Because edgebugs can make the map more realistic? Dont think so.

[blockquote]No flibo. Numb is right, But you all are thinking in all maps have eb doesnt have hp_booster. Of course its right, cuz why you need a eb and jb on a map with 10000 hp??[/blockquote]

You have already made your discovery that a map with 10000+ hp exclude the use of edgebugs. Try to come up with arguments instead of useless posts.

Agree! Iwonder if his map and mapping knowledge is good enough for creating posts like this!

Go make xtreme-edgebugs.eu

WTF! We only care about lj? That's what this community seems to care the least of.

The old good kz would be back if mappers make edgebug shortcuts in their maps? Wait... WHAT? That just ruins all the fun for normal climbers, who don't "geek edgebugs".

NumB, don't you think you are a little too angry now?

Your statement about map releases proves that you were in a bad mood when you wrote your post. Look at the latest release. Mariocastle and tinymountain are average maps and wanderer, burrow and broken are hard/extreme maps. I wasn't able to finish the first part of wanderer and burrow because I suck at standup bhops. There was no way I could nocheck broken. But I don't think it's a bad release because of that. I think in the opposite way. The map releases are very good balanced. Sometimes easy maps, sometimes medium maps and sometimes sick xtreme maps.

And it got offtopic again...close thread please!!!

Originally posted by Igge

NumB, don't you think you are a little too angry now?

Originally posted by wRath`

Yeah we should make maps so you can have all the wrs on them :/
Well for me, jbs and ebs are totally random, and I don't see why you want that in a map.

And you say only extreme maps/bhop maps are getting released? What cave are you hiding in? Just look at the last releases, many easy maps there...

NumB

You can't be surprised people only comment what you say. It has pretty simple explanations. Ikm uses a quote from you when he created this thread then you join the discussion at the middle of page 1. In this discussion it's only you and Ikm who want eb/jb in new maps. No one understand Ikm's posts so no need to comment them.
Who's left?

Try to be more careful when you post your replies. Here's a few quotes from your latest reply.

[blockquote]I know I am, but omg... Look how isnanely they understand what I say... Insted of posting why they don't agree with this idea - they are trying 2 f*ck evry single word I say...[/blockquote]

I think everyone understand your posts but they are not willing to change their minds because of what you write.
Of course people comments words from your posts. Here's an example why.

[blockquote]Cuz all I see is:
1. extreme longjump/bhoplj/cj maps.
[/blockquote]

You say ALL maps.

[blockquote]I'm sayng that MOST (not all) of the maps are hard-extreme! Omg...[/blockquote]

You say MOST of the maps.

You should read through every post before posting dumb things. If you think I'm totally out of my mind you should take another look at your latest post.

[blockquote]I care obout wr's as much as how much times some gay f*cked your mom! So stfu![/blockquote]

I don't think wRath deserves a comment like this for what he wrote. But I think you should be rewarded with a warning for that and all other offensive language you have used.

NumB, there are like 450 maps out there, and 80% of them everyone on an average level can climb. Try and dig a little in the maps section, and you will find some wonderful maps for sure.
You can't make mappers only release easy maps, 'cause these days people are trying to push the limits, more than jumping for fun, in my experience.
Making harder maps, making longer jumps, etc.

You have to face that your idea really sucks, and that is why the mappers won't listen to you. Maybe you are good at edgebugs and jumpbugs, but these two "techniques" are more random than any other technique people use for kz maps.

I would say it's more unfair to make maps like that, than to make extreme maps, most people are trained in strafing and generally just jumping.

Edgebugs and jumpbugs is a whole another thing, that most people aren't any good at (many don't even know them), and I'm pretty sure I speak for everyone when I say that you can't really "train" them, and do jumpbugs 1/2 or something like that.

Also, maybe you have 14 fps on mariocastle, but that is definitely not the mappers fault, and if you had just some basic knowledge about mapping, you would know that it's pretty much impossible to create such a huge map, that runs perfectly on everyone's computer.

From what I see, you often complain about your fps, which is usually something like below 30. I would say you should get a new computer then, cause it's really not the mappers fault.

Finally, I'd like you to calm down a bit, I am sure you won't get closer to "win" this discussion if you can't keep your language down on a normal level.

(...)They will do what they want nomather what don't caring obout any1 or anything.(...)

And thats excaclty how a mapper should work! Finally some true words lol

Well written soul! Agree to everything you say!