Stuck at 300 maxspeed

Started by Nartan
03/09/2008 17:01
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Nartan03/09/2008 17:01(edited 03/09/2008 17:38)

Heya... I been jumping some days.. around 1 week now. Seems like i cant make 240+ jumps. My record is currently 242,3. My maxspeed has never exceeded 305. I dont understand whats wrong. 7 strafes / 5 strafes or 3 strafes. Same thing is still there. "Bigger Strafes" Do not work. I seem to get slower then.

EX of my jumps:

Distance: 241.325576 MaxSpeed: 301.119598 (27.858) PreStrafe: 273.260620 Strafes: 5 Sync: 69

Distance: 240.391662 MaxSpeed: 292.634948 (18.481) PreStrafe: 274.153350 Strafes: 5 Sync: 59

Distance: 239.910461 MaxSpeed: 292.499664 (19.789) PreStrafe: 272.710510 Strafes: 5 Sync: 53

Distance: 239.759948 MaxSpeed: 294.441986 (21.808) PreStrafe: 272.633270 Strafes: 5 Sync: 66

Distance: 240.537277 MaxSpeed: 297.100891 (22.240) PreStrafe: 274.860595 Strafes: 7 Sync: 59

Distance: 240.669357 MaxSpeed: 297.276428 (25.441) PreStrafe: 271.834960 Strafes: 6 Sync: 66

Distance: 240.763046 MaxSpeed: 300.129089 (26.442) PreStrafe: 273.686950 Strafes: 5 Sync: 78

It never seems to workout. Help would be appriciated. http://files.filefront.com/hejdem/;11687234;/fileinfo.html DEMO.
Thanks!

eMTi03/09/2008 17:13

prestrafe is ok so far, but you really gotta work on your strafes dude!

Make them bigger, and try to release W a little bit earlier when you jump off.
~20 gain (maxspeed - prestrafe) is far to low.. When i got a good jump, my gain is about 3 times higher than yours..

--> solution: bigger strafes, work on your timing (mouse & keys)

that's it..

Nartan03/09/2008 17:24

Il try it. Thanks!

`ScraP Tournament #203/09/2008 17:24

hm your fps?
maybe its 60...

Nartan03/09/2008 17:26

My FPS is 99 all the time. btw.. Making bigger strafes didnt work. il upload a demo in a sec.

bap03/09/2008 17:38(edited 03/09/2008 17:41)

bigger strafes could make you slower too though, try not to make them TOO big, but not too small either. maybe you should try starting with a big strafe and then making them smaller. i think there's a thread about this.

EDIT: you've been jumping for a week, took me a while to get 240+'s too,
and then later on to 250's, you just need to practice. i would suggest doing blocks instead of the ground. (idk what you're doing atm, but thats what worked best for me) and constantly try to challenge urself, going to 241 block when you've done a 240 block a couple of times, and so on..

Nartan03/09/2008 17:50

im atm doing the blocks. I have done 237 block. But im constantly jumping 230.

lonewolf VIP03/09/2008 18:34

TIP: Don't try 7 too early, try 3-6. 4 and 3 is good and easy to practice.
(didn't saw the demo, can't open cs)
You can do 245 with 2 strafes, you need just know, how to use the strafes.
Stay calm, don't get nervous when lj. And train at blocks, only practice at minimum 4 units below your stats record.
And talking of sensbility, I started Kreedz with 1.0 sens. Some time later, my hand start to hurt, changed to 1.5, the ljs is better. Now I use 3.5. Is the perfect for me. btw, when you change the sens, normally you can't get 270+ pre at the begining.

And for training strafes: Play normal Kreedz! Try to do 2+ strafes on the jumps. I normally use 3, and of course have some jumps that is easier without strafes. Don't try too much ljs!

Nartan03/09/2008 19:06(edited 03/09/2008 19:07)

Distance: 242.202926 MaxSpeed: 307.586761 (37.584) PreStrafe: 270.002227 Strafes: 5 Sync: 79

I seem to get higher MaxSpeed... But 1.0 sens is tooo low. I use like 5. Always have used that.


EDIT: My block rec is now 239.

lonewolf VIP03/09/2008 19:19

hum, post your strafes stats for us.

Nartan03/09/2008 19:45

I dont rly save em. gonna shower then il post em.

`ScraP Tournament #203/09/2008 19:54

bhop is also a good way to learn strafing!

Nartan03/09/2008 20:03(edited 03/09/2008 20:05)

Distance: 240.350753 MaxSpeed: 296.642791 (24.620) PreStrafe: 272.022003 Strafes: 5 Sync: 59
1 0.000 0.000 8.6 0
2 9.415 0.000 21.7 69
3 5.472 0.988 13.0 80
4 4.633 0.000 21.7 35
5 5.098 0.000 3



Distance: 238.973175 MaxSpeed: 292.532012 (20.569) PreStrafe: 271.962677 Strafes: 5 Sync: 56
1 0.000 0.000 16.6 0
2 8.421 0.000 12.5 72
3 4.489 0.872 12.5 87
4 3.049 0.888 33.3 26
5 4.608 0.000 2


Distance: 239.167053 MaxSpeed: 297.452209 (22.619) PreStrafe: 274.832916 Strafes: 5 Sync: 62
1 0.000 0.000 12.5 0
2 10.802 0.000 16.6 85
3 3.239 1.006 12.5 87
4 2.829 1.292 29.1 38
5 5.748 0.000 2



Distance: 237.417221 MaxSpeed: 292.361755 (21.487) PreStrafe: 270.874267 Strafes: 5 Sync: 72
1 0.000 0.000 12.5 0
2 9.209 0.000 16.6 92
3 2.286 1.643 8.3 87
4 4.902 1.389 25.0 55
5 5.089 0.388 3



Distance: 237.647689 MaxSpeed: 295.237274 (23.803) PreStrafe: 271.434143 Strafes: 5 Sync: 60
1 0.000 0.000 12.5 0
2 10.056 0.000 12.5 90
3 3.460 1.314 12.5 87
4 4.967 0.855 25.0 42
5 5.319 2.490 3



Distance: 238.890792 MaxSpeed: 301.911315 (31.424) PreStrafe: 270.486389 Strafes: 5 Sync: 63
1 0.000 0.000 16.6 0
2 11.084 0.000 16.6 100
3 6.974 1.637 16.6 90
4 7.504 1.098 20.8 66
5 5.860 271.973 2


I hope thats enough

peak03/09/2008 20:09

omg your first strafe gain and sync is 0. you need to get 90+ sync with first strafe and at least 8-12 speed gain.
train first with 2-3 strafes to get nice sync with all strafes :o

bap03/09/2008 23:32

lol, your first strafe is like, the most important one. do what peak said ^^, i'ts basically the one you gain ur maxspeed on the most.

Nartan04/09/2008 07:00

how ever i seem to do it. i cant get it to give me something for first strafe :(

deus?04/09/2008 08:53(edited 04/09/2008 08:55)

Originally posted by peak
omg your first strafe gain and sync is 0. you need to get 90+ sync with first strafe and at least 8-12 speed gain.
train first with 2-3 strafes to get nice sync with all strafes :o


not really. u dont need to have 90+ sync with first strafe, even i dont have it, 70 will be enough. but 0 nubers are sad :> seems like u dont even have 1st strafe, u should work on that. and 5 strafes are too many for u atm, u cant sync them well, try as peak said.
p.s. dont be a stats jumper, thats the dead end. always try to improve your block records and u will get skills ;)

Fliborecord holder Tournament #204/09/2008 14:08(edited 04/09/2008 14:11)

Originally posted by Nartan
how ever i seem to do it. i cant get it to give me something for first strafe :(


Make it big! It's much about your prestrafe too. Try different prestrafe styles. For other strafes, concentrate to move your mouse and push A/D at the very same time, it helps me usually. Sometimes it helps me to make BIG and SHARP strafes. Also sharp prestrafe ftw :C

Btw, I suggest you to train your sync in a very high map. Jump from the top and try to get as much /speed as you can, but start with reallly slow strafes.

PS. With those "trainings", I've done 340+ maxspeed many times, and usually I get 330+ maxspeed :)

Nartan04/09/2008 15:04(edited 04/09/2008 17:07)

I seem to go 220 or less with like 305 speed. is this an improvement? As my first strafe goes 20+ and second 15+. Only able to strafe 2 times . What i think the first strafe counts 0 because its my prestrafe. No Prestrafe = increase of first strafe. Prestrafe = 0 increase of strafe


EDIT:



I seemed to strafe like in a straight line. I tried angling abit and this were the results.



Distance: 240.065719 MaxSpeed: 308.868988 (35.713) PreStrafe: 273.155914 Strafes: 3 Sync: 60
1 22.282 0.000 43.4 77
2 10.820 1.525 26.0 76
3 2.609 0.000 30



Distance: 227.892883 MaxSpeed: 312.102142 (48.264) PreStrafe: 263.837860 Strafes: 2 Sync: 87
1 28.485 0.000 50.0 79
2 19.778 1.462 50.0



Distance: 237.127182 MaxSpeed: 311.652557 (42.923) PreStrafe: 268.728881 Strafes: 3 Sync: 85
1 22.777 0.000 39.1 83
2 12.638 1.173 39.1 80
3 7.507 1.482 21.

EDIT 2: Seems like i were releasing W to late.


Distance: 241.454879 MaxSpeed: 301.731842 (32.183) PreStrafe: 269.548034 Strafes: 4 Sync: 78
1 8.900 0.000 16.6 100
2 8.187 1.407 20.8 92
3 6.934 1.140 20.8 81
4 8.161 0.882 41

Abit more training to do.. Thanks everyone for your help. Any tips how i can improve this?

peak04/09/2008 19:11

well your prestrafe is obviously really random. you had only 1/4 270+ and thats not really good, you need to work on your prestrafe to get 270-276 with every jump. and i dont really know what kind of strafes you are doing but my guess is that you are doing really slow strafes, try to speed them up just a bit!

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