Do you belive god exist ?
If God is all knowing and omnipotent. He then knows to make an unbreakable object but also knows how to destroy it.
mind... blown!
Originally posted by kzuq`AdantoudOriginally posted by Pulsar!Originally posted by Gamstergod does not exist.
Prove your statment.
you dont have to prove when you say god does not exist, you have to prove when you say he does exist lol
No, you have to. If you pretend statment "god does not exist" is true you have to prove it as well as statment "god exist".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot
There is no god. Supernatural divinities are primitives answer for why the sun goes down at night...
That is the simplest, most accurate quote i found. It's from battlestar galactica - the plan... If u need more info watch zeitgeist the movie...
Originally posted by eDarkhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot
Russell's teapot is an obvious red herring.
The objective properties of a teapot allow it to exist in an orbit around the sun.
His entire argument is designed to divert the attention from the inconsistency in the God argument.
If Russell was to say: "...an all-knowing china teapot possessing a consciousness without matter revolving about the sun...", his argument would be much more relevant in a discussion about religion. However, the premise and conclusion would be immediately rejected by anyone with any scientific knowledge.
You know what? Let's not even go there. What if the teapot is simply both a teapot and monkey? Sure, you can't verify its existence empirically (not with current technology), but that doesn't make it logically consistent since it assigns two fundamentally different sets of properties to a single object. To put it in perspective, a ball doesn't go up and down at the same time, which is something even religious people admit openly. However, the moment you call that ball God, everything changes...
The superiority of objective consistency over subjective inconsistency is implicitly admitted by anyone who's debating _ANYTHING_. As I said in my previous post, the very act of debating implies an acceptance of an objectively-consistent medium, since you're using mutually recognizable sound wave patterns (light frequency/intensity patterns in the case of writing) to communicate ideas, as opposed to having an imaginary debate.
I went off on a whim yet again...
31/07/2011 22:52http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster
The central "belief" is that an invisible and undetectable Flying Spaghetti Monster created the universe "after drinking heavily". According to these beliefs, the Monster's intoxication was the cause for a flawed Earth. Furthermore, according to Pastafarianism, all evidence for evolution was planted by the Flying Spaghetti Monster in an effort to test Pastafarians' faith—parodying certain biblical literalists. When scientific measurements such as radiocarbon dating are taken, the Flying Spaghetti Monster "is there changing the results with His Noodly Appendage".The Pastafarian conception of Heaven includes a beer volcano and a stripper factory. The Pastafarian Hell is similar, except that the beer is stale and the strippers have sexually transmitted diseases.
What Moxx, said.
Proving that something doesn't exist doesn't make any sense.
ofc it does, if you ask for the zeroing of a certain function its not enough to spimply say "the function has no zeroing". you have to proof it axiomatly, indirectly, inductivly or however to give this statement any value. thats how arguing works in every form, not just mathematical
u cant prove god exists, but its something which is belief,
if u want to assure yourself of the belief in God, u just need to look at the signs (so many but example is look at human race, animals nature etc.), not concrete proof (There isn't any visual evidence for God, but also, there isn't visual evidence for your brain, does that mean it doesn't exist? hell no? lol)
but ye the bible has been re-written by mankind, and there are contradictions in there, but its not 100% human.
Read the Qur'an but its got to be understood by context, and not out of literal,
its a religious topic so ill talk then
to interpret any evidence from the quran u need:
1.) full understanding of arabic linguistic language
2.) the context it was revealed
3.) why it was revealed and wots the purpose of the verse
am just saying this so if people further quote from Quran, they will understand that they are not capable of interpreting the Quran properly.
Basically it's not any theists business if atheists don't believe, if u don't believe, i personally think its arrogance, unless u blatantly see something faulty with the belief,
usually, people don't believe in God either:
1- they want to enjoy life
2 - they are arrogant
3 - they have read and learn't corrupt beliefs of God which they use their brain to learn that this belief is impossible: for example: God created the earth in 6 days and rested on the 7th:
Athiest typical belief:Of course how can any1 say God rested, he is the Greatest; he doesn't need rest so that's a human attribute, which makes me so confused bout this messed up belief - that's why i become atheist - this is the most people.
Also, this famous scientist said:
"Little knowledge of science makes you an atheist, but in-depth knowledge of science makes you a believer in God"
And this thread just brings arguments
"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." - Albert Einstein
Basically, just because something is a religious belief doesn't mean it contradicts science lol?
In the Qur'an it has science in it, and speaks about miracles of creation and science - like big bang (1400 years ago), water cycle, creation of humans inside the womb (1400 years ago - no microscopes).
It may appear that something religious contradicts science but it needs more understanding, but if something religious actually completely contradicts PROVEN 100% CONCRETE EVIDENCE science then it's a false religion. God's words cannot be false and wrong, so study the right religion with an open mind.
Originally posted by KraeftDragon, but 2000 years ago, was the Bible interpreted literally back then, with humans in general not being very intellectually refined and all?
and lol they might not have known algebra or photosynthesis, but they had more wisdom back then.
if god doesn't exist then who has buried the dinosaurs under the earth?
Guy who made out god was super genius.
Originally posted by krixesure I do.
Which god do you believe ?
isnt the same, but still pretty intresting to watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfMz10iNDDA
I will believe in god only when I will see his.
But till now nobody saw his. Therefore I do not believe in god.
I tend to that its any person has invented his because of the mercenary purposes. Though anyway occurrences of mythical god inevitably.
Originally posted by kzru_hunterI will believe in god only when I will see his.
Pretty awkward, but makes sense nonetheless. I'd also really like to see his. A lot.
No, I do not, and those who believe in God (especially the Bible) must have some sort of mental illness. Seriously think about it, those who believe in God / Bible must have been psychological harmed in some time, or was born with it. The illness should be called something like " HI, I belieive in God and enjoy listen to priests who molest children every sunday ". The only thing religion does is to start wars, wars and wars ..
Just because you believe in God doesn't mean you have to be a part of organized religion.
http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/memes-creates-logic-demands-faith.jpg lol'd
I do not belive in any sort of god. I don't think i'm experienced enough to argue about it.
Please log in to post replies.