Hiring moviemaker for a very promising projec
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MrMystery08/11/2011 19:05(edited 14/12/2011 15:15)
Hello everybody. I want to present you a very promising movie I will be directing. I will be paying for a good editor/moviemaker to accomplish this task, but I will be extremely strict about that. This movie will be basically concentrated on oldschool remarkable jumpers and unique jumpers. I will write down answers to most of the questions you might have
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"Facts you need to know about this movie:
1. This movie will be directed by me and I will dictate the ideas of the movie.
2. The moviemaker will be paid for this project 300$ and editing will include a ~2 min trailer and a 15-18 min movie. If there is a crew of 4 person I will pay 100 each. Crew limit: 4 people.
3. The movie will contain a XJ logo only and only in case XJ agrees to have this movie freely downloaded for everybody like in old times, without any VIP required. I don't really care if this movie appears on Xj front page or not, unless they want to.
4. The movie budget is 500 $, but the price may be rised if I'm really satisfied and the moviemaker will be paid monthly for it or weekly or however agreed. If some of moviemakers think 300 $ is not enough, I mention one more time: almost nobody pays for KZ movie nowadays and even he somebody does, I doubt 300 $ will be paid to an unprofessional cs moviemaker . . . if nobody agrees I will find a cs, not kz moviemaker, so take you chance if you want.
5. I will be very strict about songs and no dubstep or rock music will be accepted in this movie. The music will be also dictated by me, but I may agree with some songs if you have some really good ideas.
6. I will need everybody to contact oldschool legendary jumpers and I'll write below which of them.
7. This movie will contain following music styles: piano, light rock may be, rap, orchestra, some funky songs perhaps and may be guitar.
Moviemaker requirements : : If you want to apply as a moviemaker you must know that I am very strict and I will choose only the best. One more thing you have to know is that if you want to be a crew(limit 4 people), it's no problem but the money will be the same. I can't afford paying 300$ each moviemaker, unless other people want to pay. It depends.
The moviemaker will be required to have high skills of moviemaking and will need to know how to use such programs like Photoshop(not compulsory), Vegas, Adobe After Effects, Hlae of course, Cinema 4D(Not compulsory), 3D max(just in case, it will depend).
The moviemaker must be able to meet deadlines and be responsible and hard working that's why I will exclude for myself from the start some of moviemakers I've studied.
The moviemaker has to be pretty confident and not to be argumentative. Understand me - I'm not a dictator, I have democratic leadership style but I have ideas that have strictly to be respected.
The moviemaker will need good english skills definitively. I will be explaining a lot and we may even have discussions through skype or whatever you want.
Every work you do, you have to save it or I don't know and give it to me from time to time because this will ensure me you aren't just cheating and taking the money.
I think I don't need to mention that the quality of movie must be high with I don't know ... 300 fps output or how much is it possible, because I understand nothing in moviemaking, correct me if I'm wrong.
And of course meeting deadlines. I remind one more time. If I see moviemaker is lazy or doesn't meet my requirements and deadlines or is aggressive and way too rude - bye-bye.
Moviemakers that I would be likely to hire:
nikitich, ndR, level2, kaffee, Lazze, cr0ucher, FoF, jusuuh, Ma$takilla, st0ka., WqkO, 8ball1 and others can feel free to contact, I might have missed some skilfull moviemakers.
Moviemakers hired: nikitich, markan and cr0ucher
JUMPERS: : Of course the movie can't start without demos from jumpers. As I said before it's a very restricted area ...
If anyone can contact this jumpers and tell them about this project it would be superb: brian, Fact or Fiction, puppetz, faker, ndR, pruno, heL^_x, KeltA, Supa, sambb, zhady, Alts!cH, a0ke, target, shNz, omilo, kunqui, Z0ck3rOO7, Micron, Chasquido, 7D, 26, sKiCg, mgD, chriZzo, StormZz, soul|ftw, Messing, Np_O, DHT-, Flibo, donak0s, DotAntipro, Bibo, oTcHeTo, Moxx, rad0n, ajuhhhh, dadadaxD, FikoN, Gangien, hekk, kimo, OddYseus, NiconeN, Nicla$$, pizza, novice, kayne, akkord, T3dBundy, qewi, Lolz, k3g, wRath`,MepH, Chrizzy, count, sbzvln, raYla, Perfo, rEs0LuTe, spr1n, KNiFEAR, Hanniball, mjuuh, heat, Mooney, Scary, thopa, Mehz, elITe^, TinTin, oO3ddYOo, SoUlFaThEr, ev0, rOn!n, esilo, asix,Dujes, Silver, leggie, reAti, ScooteR, tjubby, TROUbl3m4k3r, BAEVERN, zyllEE, Cordyline, daza, Zefix, ZzdNk, juleeh, theddy, loty, Cypek, geddyk, Dsnts, deus and koukouz.
If any of the people I nominated in my list want to discuss something or give me demos, I am free to talk . Steam : mrmisterykreedz . Skype:MrMysterykz . I am not much online on xj, so PM's wouldn't be the best choice. It takes time to talk through PM's, so it would me much easier for me if you added me in steam/skype.
NB! : If you notice any legendary or good jumper I haven't mentioned and I'm sure I forgot some, just write a list in the posts below and I will edit my post. I hope I haven't missed any good legendary jumper. You can also recommend me delete some of them, may be I am mistaken about them. And one more time: PLEASE CONTACT THESE JUMPERS!!! Without demos from them project simply can't be started.
PS!: If you contact them tell that I need either an old trickjump of them or some new stuff, I don't need any hardcore jumps, it's simply not necesarry. I simply need some acceptable and viewable combos or jumps.
PSS!: I could have made spelling or grammar mistakes ... dont take them into consideration I m very tired.
Contacts: steam - mrmisterykreedz or PM me and I'll give you my skype or any other contact you need. Feel free to contact, but with reason.
I wish you good luck and you can discuss this. Only thing I would ask admins is to keep this thread unlocked and please if there are spam comments or whatever just block or delete them. Flamewars aren't accepted as well. I simply don't want all this text to be in vain and this thread to be locked. Play fair and nice. Hope I made myself pretty clear. If I answer your comments and say 1 thing I don't want that to be debated, I will simply just ignore you. Comments like "Ow why didn't you include that *jumpername*?" and my response as "No, he doesn't fit" shouldn't be debated. Got it? Good. Don't be lazy and read everything to avoid stupid questions. Also debates about moviemakers I've excluded aren't accepted, unless you play really fair.
I can't mention to you any deadline at the moment, I have no freakin idea. It depends on how long does it take to collect demos and find a moviemaker.
This movie will remind you of good oldschool times and beauty of kreedz.
Have a nice day!!!
[color="red"]UPDATE #1:: -Excluded banned moviemakers list, but it doesn't mean I won't be strict when chosing a moviemaker
-Added Wako to moviemakers I am likely to hire
-Added some jumpers like T3dbundy, akkord, kayne.
UPDATE #2: - Movie length reduced to 15-18 minutes
- Trailer length reduced to 2-2:30 minutes
- Editor's paying reduced to 300$, still he might get a bonus for a real good work.
- Crew limit: 4 person. If there is a crew of for or 3 I will pay 100 $ each or better said 400 $ in total
- There will be made three steam accounts with games and with limited price of 100 $ may be a lil bit more for all of threm for the top three jumpers/trickjumpers.
- Best jumpers will be voted by viewers
UPDATE #3: - http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/412/dscn02371.jpg/ Photo added for demonstrating I've got the money right here, I also wrote xtreme-jumps to assure you it's me not anybody else. This doesn't of course mean that all money goes to the moviemaker. Everything remains as agreed. You can easily convert them, it's a ~ 500$ :)
-Added k3g, wRath`,MepH, Chrizzy, count, sbzvln, raYla, Perfo
UPDATE #4: - Found moviemakers: nikitich, cr0ucher and markan
- Added jumpers in the list
- Deadline for jumpers: 9 January"
Ok, so now I'll re-write this whole thing.
First of all guys, I would prefer you to contact me on steam, because I won't be online for like 3 weeks starting from 15th December and I'll leave a friend of mine to receive demos on steam.
DEADLINE FOR DEMOS changed to 25 JANUARY!
I need 2-3 trickjumps/player max.
"JUMPERS: : Of course the movie can't start without demos from jumpers. As I said before it's a very restricted area ...
If anyone can contact this jumpers and tell them about this project it would be superb: brian, Fact or Fiction, puppetz, faker, ndR, pruno, heL^_x, KeltA, Supa, sambb, zhady, Alts!cH, a0ke, target, shNz, omilo, kunqui, Z0ck3rOO7, Micron, Chasquido, 7D, 26, sKiCg, mgD, chriZzo, StormZz, soul|ftw, Messing, Np_O, DHT-, Flibo, donak0s, DotAntipro, Bibo, oTcHeTo, Moxx, rad0n, ajuhhhh, dadadaxD, FikoN, Gangien, hekk, kimo, OddYseus, NiconeN, Nicla$$, pizza, novice, kayne, akkord, T3dBundy, qewi, Lolz, k3g, wRath`,MepH, Chrizzy, count, sbzvln, raYla, Perfo, rEs0LuTe, spr1n, KNiFEAR, Hanniball, mjuuh, heat, Mooney, Scary, thopa, Mehz, elITe^, TinTin, oO3ddYOo, SoUlFaThEr, ev0, rOn!n, esilo, asix,Dujes, Silver, leggie, reAti, ScooteR, tjubby, TROUbl3m4k3r, BAEVERN, zyllEE, Cordyline, daza, Zefix, ZzdNk, juleeh, theddy, loty, Cypek, geddyk, Dsnts, deus, Gnomas and koukouz. "
Now you can read the initial text. Thank you for patience and please contact jumpers from my list if you can, coz the most of part of them don't visit xj anymore, so PM's don't help me much.
Best regards
kayne
08/11/2011 19:18
08/11/2011 19:18great idea, hope you'll find someone!
Jonde08/11/2011 19:20
I think with NicoleN you meant NiconeN
Lazze08/11/2011 19:28
This is pretty interesting honestly. I will be thinking about it, but I honestly don't like working for money in this case. I don't find myself confident in my moviemaking abilities, and the money just puts a pressure on my shoulders.
But a very nice initiative indeed, I'll give you that!
PiilsnEr08/11/2011 19:30
Haha i lold when i saw what you wrote about the banned mm ;) Well i dont trust this, It seems weird. Can we have a look at your previous works? That would be great
Peace
MrMystery08/11/2011 19:38
Originally posted by LazzeThis is pretty interesting honestly. I will be thinking about it, but I honestly don't like working for money in this case. I don't find myself confident in my moviemaking abilities, and the money just puts a pressure on my shoulders.
But a very nice initiative indeed, I'll give you that!
Good point here. I wrote that formal way the post above only to show that I don't want childish people to be implied in. Basically I do imagine that it's a very difficult work for a single moviemaker and it's much pressure. About pressure: honestly I'm not a bad person, I just tried to appear strict to make kids disappear from this area. I would also mention that as a moviemaker you shouldn't be that concerned about money ... I mean I won't pressure you. I will be behaving normally and I will give as much time as you need. Basically the moviemaker decides about deadlines. All of us have real life... I myself have a lot of work now to do and I've got next week quite easy and not busy so I decided to start this.
I wrote about money because this would motivate moviemakers.... I mean few would agree editing this "directed by me" movie without a price. Time costs money nowadays. If I see a bigger crew involved I do really think I will raise the price, but it really depends :) I'm not a bank. I made this project to remind people of old times. Sincerely : don't look at my membership number, it tells nothing at all )). Nowadays max 5 minutes movie are nothing compared to some old stuff :)
One more thing not to forget: if I find a moviemaker very soon, I must tell from the very beginning that I'm not sure at all when I get all those demos ... It might take a really long period, same time it might be very soon. I also don't aim all the jumpers to give me demos, it would be perfect If I get at least 70 % of those mentioned. And I won't start without a demo from zhady ndR and heL^_x for sure :)
MrMystery08/11/2011 19:41
Originally posted by PiilsnErHaha i lold when i saw what you wrote about the banned mm ;) Well i dont trust this, It seems weird. Can we have a look at your previous works? That would be great
Peace
I told you to read everything before giving stupid questions. Read carefully: I give the ideas and I direct the movie, I DO NOT edit it at all. I don't have any previous works and about weirdness and suspicions : I will pay immediately a moviemaker that is ready to work 50 $ or depends on how we agree.
finzer08/11/2011 20:14(edited 08/11/2011 20:25)
Only the mmakers will get paid ? what 'bout teh jumpers ? cuz if you want demos from guys like HeL^_x, i do think that it could catch his attention, but without money, you'll probably not see a single trickjump from him, IMO.
Anyways, it looks really interesting, good luck lad.
edit: akkord should be in the list.
IceVip08/11/2011 20:24(edited 08/11/2011 20:28)
I Won't write anything on topic here, this is totally off topic.
You wrote almost everything that it is to know, but i literally want to ask you, Whats the point of this?
You want to get famous really quickly and be known as the first man who paid for a KZ movie which was directed by himself? Or you just had some extra money and you just needed to spent them somewhere?
On Topic: 25 minutes, 5 minutes trailer, you gotta be a really good director to think about what the hell r u gonna put in that trailer, 2 hours movies have a maximum of 2 minutes trailers.. and the people who you want to participate in this movie (jumpers i mean) 90% of them don't play anymore, and EVEN, just EVEN if some random miracle happens and ALL OF THEM give you a demo or two, you wont get a 25 minutes movie, I'm saying this because i have the experience and i can tell. Bulgarian-Kreedz The Movie was a total of 12Minutes, 46 demos included, The number of the jumpers you said is around 50, now imagine everyone gives you 2 demos(which wont happen because as i said 90% of them don't play cs anymore) 50x2= 24 minutes n smth, and 47x2 = 24 minutes, how do you think this will happen? i have no idea what kind of a director you are and how you know so much about people but from now i can tell you that this project will definitely FAIL if you don't change the jumpers/movie duration.
WqkO08/11/2011 20:28(edited 11/11/2011 04:41)
Sounds interesting, you've actually awoken my curiosity.
#1: Why are you ready to pay 500$ for such a project ? It won't bring you anything but the pleasure to lead a project.
#2: I'll go straight to my point, but a 5min trailer is way too long, you don't imagine how hard it is to make a clip that "tease" a mind, and which is longer than a single minute. Same for the lenght of the clip, 25min is horrible for the moviemaker as well as the viewers. Even with a boss edit, it will be hard to keep viewers after 8-10min, unless all trickjumps are mindblowing, which I doubt. And it implies to gather a huge amount of demos. So my 2nd question is : Why these lenght ?
#3: Why am I not in the "Moviemakers that I would be likely to hire" list ? :D Answer one : I forgot you! / Answer two : I don't want you + reason (please).
#4: About the output fps, 30fps/60fps will do, YouTube convert the video in 30fps anyways, it doesn't make a big difference. Input fps is what matters.
#5: Maybe I've missed a part, but could you introduce yourself ? I think you didn't even say why you created this project.
Thanks, gl.
jusuuh08/11/2011 20:35(edited 08/11/2011 20:38)
Hmm, this is truly something fresh to this scene. I'll ask some same questions as above, too lazy to quote things;
- What are your paying intrests? Good ideas, disappointing scene at the moment, much potential, too much money? For outsider, it just seems like you have all that above, like these "rich boys" (nothing to insult or anything) are moving virtual.
- Yeah, a 5 minutes long trailer is just overshot, for 25 min movie about 1 min trailer could make it. And anyways the movie lenght will be pretty hard to achieve, when you set so high criteria for example on jumpers, and jumps. But that's not the biggest problem.
- High quality is just about your HDD space, the higher input, the better it gets. 30 fps output is enough, maybe 60 fps for hi-fi download (freaky size).
This project truly has some potential, but still big "leaks" and unknown things what gets me asking could this be really possible. Intresting.
edit: Really weird to see pheil standing in that list with those criterias. He's been mostly editing clean and color corrected well, but yeah, that's your vision :p
MrMystery08/11/2011 20:51
Originally posted by IceVipI Won't write anything on topic here, this is totally off topic.
You wrote almost everything that it is to know, but i literally want to ask you, Whats the point of this?
You want to get famous really quickly and be known as the first man who paid for a KZ movie which was directed by himself? Or you just had some extra money and you just needed to spent them somewhere?
On Topic: 25 minutes, 5 minutes trailer, you gotta be a really good director to think about what the hell r u gonna put in that trailer, 2 hours movies have a maximum of 2 minutes trailers.. and the people who you want to participate in this movie (jumpers i mean) 90% of them don't play anymore, and EVEN, just EVEN if some random miracle happens and ALL OF THEM give you a demo or two, you wont get a 25 minutes movie, I'm saying this because i have the experience and i can tell. Bulgarian-Kreedz The Movie was a total of 12Minutes, 46 demos included, The number of the jumpers you said is around 50, now imagine everyone gives you 2 demos(which wont happen because as i said 90% of them don't play cs anymore) 50x2= 24 minutes n smth, and 47x2 = 24 minutes, how do you think this will happen? i have no idea what kind of a director you are and how you know so much about people but from now i can tell you that this project will definitely FAIL if you don't change the jumpers/movie duration.
As I mentioned my list isn't finished yet and I didn't ask new demos ... I asked demos so re-consider that. About 90% not playing? Think twice. For people with such great skill and experience it's just a matter of a little time to perform a trickjump based basically on beauty. You might be angry because I didn't include you in the list and I understand you but you are too aggressive in my opinion, you can't talk without blaming or critisizing something.
About length: Just take the intro 1-2 minutes and the outhro 1-2 minutes and you'll get an average 25-3=22 minutes the movie without intro outro. But the thing is that the movie will be not that impactful and fast ... I mean you'll simply enjoy the beauty. I calculated an average of 5-7 seconds edit for a single demo. If I see that in a period of time I don't get enough demos for a longer project, I'll be concentrated on a smaller project, which would mean at least 15 minutes. You might also critisize my intro/outro of 3 minutes together, but I will direct them that long no matter what people think.
Re-consider that I will have discussions with moviemaker(s) which might also have an impact on movie's lenght. What I wrote is that I want a moviemaker who is ready and able to do such a long movie, because I won't choose of course people that aren't capable to make long movies.
I made this thread to discuss with you. I didn't say that the length of movie is strict, I haven't mentioned that. I only mentioned that the ideas of it will be strict and the deadlines.
Your off-topic questions just make me sad: No, I'm not a rich boy for all who would think that. I seriously honestly geniunly don't have much money, still I've got a job and I get a pretty nice wage now and the money was put just to motivate. Example: imagine I wouldn't put a money matter on this movie. Would you be interested? Guess you wouldn't and you wouldn't follow my ideas, you would play your own rules.
No I don't want to be famous at all, I even don't ask anybody to write my name somewhere in the movie or elsewhere. I don't care about fame here. It's just a matter of beauty and refreshing the kz scene.
And please don't get mad if I mentioned you on ban list, you should have read twice. I said: you got a chance, but your post above proved one more time that you are way too childish and nervous, no offence.
And why on earth should I mention one more time: play fair?
MrMystery08/11/2011 21:02
Originally posted by WqkOSounds interesting, you've actually awoken my curiosity.
#1: Why are you ready to pay 500$ for such a project ? It won't bring you anything but the pleasure to lead a project.
#2: I'll go straight to my point, but a 5min trailer is way too long, you don't imagine how hard it is to make a clip that "tease" a mind, and which is longer than a single minute. Same for the lenght of the clip, 25min is horrible for the moviemaker as well as the viewers. Even with a boss edit, it will be hard to keep viewers after 8-10min, unless all trickjumps are mindblowing, which I doubt. And it implies to gather a huge amount of demos. So my 2nd question is : Why these lenght ?
#3: Why am I not in the "Moviemakers that I would be likely to hire" list ? Answer one : I forgot you! / Answer two : I don't want you + reason (please).
#4: About the output fps, 30fps/60fps will do, YouTube convert the video in 30fps anyways, it doesn't make a big difference. Input fps is what matters.
#5: Maybe I've missed a part, but could you introduce yourself ? I think you didn't even say why you created this project.
Thanks, gl.
Answer to #1: It won't even bring me actually much pleasure to lead it, honestly being. After years of not playing kz I got back here and saw all these short-length movies that have no purpose, movies for a single watch. About money matter: I really don't have much money, being sincerily I live monthly on an average of 800 $, which is far away from much in UK for an adult with renting an apartment, ask Uk citizens about this matter. I put the money in game only to motivate moviemakers and make them hear and what's important listen to me.
Answer to #2 : I will re-consider that because I see length is quite a problem here, I might have been mistaken about the trailer indeed now that I think. Changes will be done! Fair-play opinions always welcome!
Answer to #3: Sincerily I've watched only your two longjump failicious movies and they are quite good, even perfect for the theme you chose but I'm not sure about your other potentials. I will consider you as a choice, always welcome!
Answer to #5: I prefer to keep it anonymous but the main reason I've started this project is to bring oldschool back and refresh the moviemaking kz style. Too much dubstep and impacts in movies nowadays. Don't get me wrong - I am all for dubstep but it's becoming too boring imo. Short and impactious movies ...
IceVip08/11/2011 21:02
Originally posted by MrMysteryOriginally posted by IceVipI Won't write anything on topic here, this is totally off topic.
You wrote almost everything that it is to know, but i literally want to ask you, Whats the point of this?
You want to get famous really quickly and be known as the first man who paid for a KZ movie which was directed by himself? Or you just had some extra money and you just needed to spent them somewhere?
On Topic: 25 minutes, 5 minutes trailer, you gotta be a really good director to think about what the hell r u gonna put in that trailer, 2 hours movies have a maximum of 2 minutes trailers.. and the people who you want to participate in this movie (jumpers i mean) 90% of them don't play anymore, and EVEN, just EVEN if some random miracle happens and ALL OF THEM give you a demo or two, you wont get a 25 minutes movie, I'm saying this because i have the experience and i can tell. Bulgarian-Kreedz The Movie was a total of 12Minutes, 46 demos included, The number of the jumpers you said is around 50, now imagine everyone gives you 2 demos(which wont happen because as i said 90% of them don't play cs anymore) 50x2= 24 minutes n smth, and 47x2 = 24 minutes, how do you think this will happen? i have no idea what kind of a director you are and how you know so much about people but from now i can tell you that this project will definitely FAIL if you don't change the jumpers/movie duration.
As I mentioned my list isn't finished yet and I didn't ask new demos ... I asked demos so re-consider that. About 90% not playing? Think twice. For people with such great skill and experience it's just a matter of a little time to perform a trickjump based basically on beauty. You might be angry because I didn't include you in the list and I understand you but you are too aggressive in my opinion, you can't talk without blaming or critisizing something.
About length: Just take the intro 1-2 minutes and the outhro 1-2 minutes and you'll get an average 25-3=22 minutes the movie without intro outro. But the thing is that the movie will be not that impactful and fast ... I mean you'll simply enjoy the beauty. I calculated an average of 5-7 seconds edit for a single demo. If I see that in a period of time I don't get enough demos for a longer project, I'll be concentrated on a smaller project, which would mean at least 15 minutes. You might also critisize my intro/outro of 3 minutes together, but I will direct them that long no matter what people think.
Re-consider that I will have discussions with moviemaker(s) which might also have an impact on movie's lenght. What I wrote is that I want a moviemaker who is ready and able to do such a long movie, because I won't choose of course people that aren't capable to make long movies.
I made this thread to discuss with you. I didn't say that the length of movie is strict, I haven't mentioned that. I only mentioned that the ideas of it will be strict and the deadlines.
Your off-topic questions just make me sad: No, I'm not a rich boy for all who would think that. I seriously honestly geniunly don't have much money, still I've got a job and I get a pretty nice wage now and the money was put just to motivate. Example: imagine I wouldn't put a money matter on this movie. Would you be interested? Guess you wouldn't and you wouldn't follow my ideas, you would play your own rules.
No I don't want to be famous at all, I even don't ask anybody to write my name somewhere in the movie or elsewhere. I don't care about fame here. It's just a matter of beauty and refreshing the kz scene.
And please don't get mad if I mentioned you on ban list, you should have read twice. I said: you got a chance, but your post above proved one more time that you are way too childish and nervous, no offence.
And why on earth should I mention one more time: play fair?
I Don't really care if I'm in the ban list because i have my own projects to work on. Taking a side project like this picky pile of poo is too risky for both of us.
I may be childish, but i ain't nervous at all, i pretty much laughed at this.
You think you have it all figured out eh? think again my dear hollywood star.
MrMystery08/11/2011 21:06
Originally posted by jusuuhHmm, this is truly something fresh to this scene. I'll ask some same questions as above, too lazy to quote things;
- What are your paying intrests? Good ideas, disappointing scene at the moment, much potential, too much money? For outsider, it just seems like you have all that above, like these "rich boys" (nothing to insult or anything) are moving virtual.
- Yeah, a 5 minutes long trailer is just overshot, for 25 min movie about 1 min trailer could make it. And anyways the movie lenght will be pretty hard to achieve, when you set so high criteria for example on jumpers, and jumps. But that's not the biggest problem.
- High quality is just about your HDD space, the higher input, the better it gets. 30 fps output is enough, maybe 60 fps for hi-fi download (freaky size).
This project truly has some potential, but still big "leaks" and unknown things what gets me asking could this be really possible. Intresting.
edit: Really weird to see pheil standing in that list with those criterias. He's been mostly editing clean and color corrected well, but yeah, that's your vision :p
I will consider your opinion about pheil, but I guess he becomes too demotivated when he has to edit long and If I'm not mistaken he has some Pc problems so that's actually another reason why I inclded him there. We can discuss this matters as long as you are being nice.
I will re-consider as well the trailer length:) I've exampled such time matters only to exclude automatically unpotential moviemakers.
About money matter: read my posts above.
Why am I doing this? Well, that's my own business actually. Gl and thanks for the feedback! Play nice and have a nice day.
MrMystery08/11/2011 21:14
Originally posted by IceVipOriginally posted by MrMysteryOriginally posted by IceVipI Won't write anything on topic here, this is totally off topic.
You wrote almost everything that it is to know, but i literally want to ask you, Whats the point of this?
You want to get famous really quickly and be known as the first man who paid for a KZ movie which was directed by himself? Or you just had some extra money and you just needed to spent them somewhere?
On Topic: 25 minutes, 5 minutes trailer, you gotta be a really good director to think about what the hell r u gonna put in that trailer, 2 hours movies have a maximum of 2 minutes trailers.. and the people who you want to participate in this movie (jumpers i mean) 90% of them don't play anymore, and EVEN, just EVEN if some random miracle happens and ALL OF THEM give you a demo or two, you wont get a 25 minutes movie, I'm saying this because i have the experience and i can tell. Bulgarian-Kreedz The Movie was a total of 12Minutes, 46 demos included, The number of the jumpers you said is around 50, now imagine everyone gives you 2 demos(which wont happen because as i said 90% of them don't play cs anymore) 50x2= 24 minutes n smth, and 47x2 = 24 minutes, how do you think this will happen? i have no idea what kind of a director you are and how you know so much about people but from now i can tell you that this project will definitely FAIL if you don't change the jumpers/movie duration.
As I mentioned my list isn't finished yet and I didn't ask new demos ... I asked demos so re-consider that. About 90% not playing? Think twice. For people with such great skill and experience it's just a matter of a little time to perform a trickjump based basically on beauty. You might be angry because I didn't include you in the list and I understand you but you are too aggressive in my opinion, you can't talk without blaming or critisizing something.
About length: Just take the intro 1-2 minutes and the outhro 1-2 minutes and you'll get an average 25-3=22 minutes the movie without intro outro. But the thing is that the movie will be not that impactful and fast ... I mean you'll simply enjoy the beauty. I calculated an average of 5-7 seconds edit for a single demo. If I see that in a period of time I don't get enough demos for a longer project, I'll be concentrated on a smaller project, which would mean at least 15 minutes. You might also critisize my intro/outro of 3 minutes together, but I will direct them that long no matter what people think.
Re-consider that I will have discussions with moviemaker(s) which might also have an impact on movie's lenght. What I wrote is that I want a moviemaker who is ready and able to do such a long movie, because I won't choose of course people that aren't capable to make long movies.
I made this thread to discuss with you. I didn't say that the length of movie is strict, I haven't mentioned that. I only mentioned that the ideas of it will be strict and the deadlines.
Your off-topic questions just make me sad: No, I'm not a rich boy for all who would think that. I seriously honestly geniunly don't have much money, still I've got a job and I get a pretty nice wage now and the money was put just to motivate. Example: imagine I wouldn't put a money matter on this movie. Would you be interested? Guess you wouldn't and you wouldn't follow my ideas, you would play your own rules.
No I don't want to be famous at all, I even don't ask anybody to write my name somewhere in the movie or elsewhere. I don't care about fame here. It's just a matter of beauty and refreshing the kz scene.
And please don't get mad if I mentioned you on ban list, you should have read twice. I said: you got a chance, but your post above proved one more time that you are way too childish and nervous, no offence.
And why on earth should I mention one more time: play fair?
I Don't really care if I'm in the ban list because i have my own projects to work on. Taking a side project like this picky pile of poo is too risky for both of us.
I may be childish, but i ain't nervous at all, i pretty much laughed at this.
You think you have it all figured out eh? think again my dear hollywood star.
Such comments will be ignored by me and considered as flamewars. Got it? Got it. See yea! And please don't write ever again such flaming stuff because I'm not of your age to discuss with you some things that your father and mother should have taught you. I'm seriously all for and into discussions as long as you consider the responsiblity I'm taking and the risk. I'm trying to be nice, I really don't want to be considered as a "I want to become famous" person. I'm not the one and I don't basically care about childish comments and different internet informal and flaming language. Please keep it fair !
zythH^ 
08/11/2011 21:39
08/11/2011 21:39I think you should hire Vin Diesel and also Paul Walker for some few fast combos ;)
And not joke dude... But really? 500$ for a KZ Movie? Really? I need 500$ to eat also dress myself!
Sorry for my english...
dyna08/11/2011 21:42
Production : hollywood
Actors : TBA
Good luck !
fashioNz08/11/2011 21:58
great idea! gl
Zippow09/11/2011 00:09
Sounds very interesting indeed.
might be a bit rash to have that list of banned moviemakers with such offending comments about them though? wouldn't it be better if you'd just not include them in the "wanted" list.
Good luck with this project, i'll definitely have my eyes on this project!
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