That's it?

Started by chrizZo
28/04/2012 21:42
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xERAU;*12/06/2012 02:05

+1 zhady
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zhady wtf are you doing on Netherlands!?

FragMcCracken mapper12/06/2012 08:29

its the normal summer- / winterfluctuation...
every summer somebody creates a thread like this

kzno`Psycho12/06/2012 21:19

I know this won't save KZ forever, but it would probably make people want to record more for a while, here is my idea:

Give maps that has been destroyed by shortcuts: [+sc] [-sc]

Here are the maps I really think should get it and some other stupid maps that I don't see the point in having on the list:

bkz_wallblock (Has a really lame sc that skips almost the entire map)
cg_d2block_ez (Has a really stupid bug on the ladder that makes you fly to the end timer, REALLY ??)
cg_industry (Has a weird slide bug that skips the entire map)
cg_islands (Has a slide sc that skips a big part of the map)
dg_winterclimb (This map is 3min+ , but there is a sc that skips everything, stupid)
kzse_bhopblock (Has a stupid sc when you get inside, you can jump all the way down to the timer, skipping the rest of the map)
kz_42_amazon (If you jump from the top of the map you can ledge and then hit the timer to fly and skip a lot. This way of starting the timer shouldn't be allowed, it's just stupid)
kz_6fd_volcano (This is normally a really cool map to play, but then someone found a lame ass way to skip almost everything with a "duckbug")
kz_ep_gigablock_b01 (This is also an awesome map, but a sc was found ofc, that skips like 3 min..)
kz_excavation (This map can be finished in 2 ways, so why is there only one wr ?) [+minimap] [-minimap]
kz_faw_cathedral_e (Another map destroyed by a lame sc)
kz_faw_cathedral_h (Same with this map)
kz_man_alienbase (Another map destroyed by a lame sc)
kz_kzfr_bhopspace (Map wasted)
kz_man_bhopdesert (Map wasted)
kz_man_bhopocean (Map wasted)
kz_man_bhopsnow (Map wasted)
kz_midnight (Lame sc that skips almost the entire map)
kz_rambo_xen (Another map destroyed by a lame sc)
kz_space (An awesome 2 min map DESTROYED by a lame ass 6 sec sc -.-)
kz_wsp_marioland (Destroyed by 2 really LAME sc's)
kz_wsp_valleyclimb (Destroyed by a big sc)
risk_compound (Another map destroyed by a lame sc)
risk_ministry (Another map destroyed by a lame sc)
trC_climbgarden (Another map destroyed by a lame sc)

I love the idea of ​​making two possibilities..I hope the admins to think very well about it
I'm sure that would attempt to increase the wr's

kalinskY12/06/2012 21:52

Originally posted by Bu7ler
Originally posted by jack frog
There are regulary WR releases and tournaments (tonight is one btw), how can you say it's "dead"?

There are wr releases regularly, but there are only few demos. There were times when release contained 40 new demos.

When goldbhop was 1:45 ?

Balcer12/06/2012 23:10

Originally posted by kzno`Psycho
I know this won't save KZ forever, but it would probably make people want to record more for a while, here is my idea:

Give maps that has been destroyed by shortcuts: [+sc] [-sc]

Here are the maps I really think should get it and some other stupid maps that I don't see the point in having on the list:

bkz_wallblock (Has a really lame sc that skips almost the entire map)
cg_d2block_ez (Has a really stupid bug on the ladder that makes you fly to the end timer, REALLY ??)
cg_industry (Has a weird slide bug that skips the entire map)
cg_islands (Has a slide sc that skips a big part of the map)
dg_winterclimb (This map is 3min+ , but there is a sc that skips everything, stupid)
kzse_bhopblock (Has a stupid sc when you get inside, you can jump all the way down to the timer, skipping the rest of the map)
kz_42_amazon (If you jump from the top of the map you can ledge and then hit the timer to fly and skip a lot. This way of starting the timer shouldn't be allowed, it's just stupid)
kz_6fd_volcano (This is normally a really cool map to play, but then someone found a lame ass way to skip almost everything with a "duckbug")
kz_ep_gigablock_b01 (This is also an awesome map, but a sc was found ofc, that skips like 3 min..)
kz_excavation (This map can be finished in 2 ways, so why is there only one wr ?) [+minimap] [-minimap]
kz_faw_cathedral_e (Another map destroyed by a lame sc)
kz_faw_cathedral_h (Same with this map)
kz_man_alienbase (Another map destroyed by a lame sc)
kz_kzfr_bhopspace (Map wasted)
kz_man_bhopdesert (Map wasted)
kz_man_bhopocean (Map wasted)
kz_man_bhopsnow (Map wasted)
kz_midnight (Lame sc that skips almost the entire map)
kz_rambo_xen (Another map destroyed by a lame sc)
kz_space (An awesome 2 min map DESTROYED by a lame ass 6 sec sc -.-)
kz_wsp_marioland (Destroyed by 2 really LAME sc's)
kz_wsp_valleyclimb (Destroyed by a big sc)
risk_compound (Another map destroyed by a lame sc)
risk_ministry (Another map destroyed by a lame sc)
trC_climbgarden (Another map destroyed by a lame sc)

+1

cC|SpiNe12/06/2012 23:57

I have been inactive for around a year now, and there has been no drastic changes in the community but what has happened has that it has been slowly withering down. Nothing new has occurred. Looking through the news posts it is the same old stuff.

Demo Release
Maps Release
Cup winners

Something new are these tourneys which I don't know much about but I don't get a good initial impression of. Again don't know much about them so I can't comment too much.

I believe in the Kreedz community what needs to happen is more events which pertain to the average kz player. This is why I was so in love with the original Cosy Climbing model, even though it had a lot of flaws. The top record holders are only 1% of the community and although watching their records is fun for a great part of the community, that is not what everyone is here for. So i think "bring back the old jumpers" is not a great solution.

I know you chrizZo are a great spokesperson for the community, you have proved so in the past. The community needs someone like you. Someone to organise this and really take some affirmative action to step it up to the next phase. In my opinion all the community needs is a little variety. Hell even some organisation in terms of a regular CS tourney. I get that this site is for climbing and that should always be it's main focus, but variety never hurts. Also as said the community really needs to focus a lot more on the average player without losing focus on the top scene also.



jack frog13/06/2012 22:51

Originally posted by kzno`Psycho
I know this won't save KZ forever, but it would probably make people want to record more for a while, here is my idea:

Give maps that has been destroyed by shortcuts: [+sc] [-sc]

Here are the maps I really think should get it and some other stupid maps that I don't see the point in having on the list:

bkz_wallblock (Has a really lame sc that skips almost the entire map)
cg_d2block_ez (Has a really stupid bug on the ladder that makes you fly to the end timer, REALLY ??)
cg_industry (Has a weird slide bug that skips the entire map)
cg_islands (Has a slide sc that skips a big part of the map)
dg_winterclimb (This map is 3min+ , but there is a sc that skips everything, stupid)
kzse_bhopblock (Has a stupid sc when you get inside, you can jump all the way down to the timer, skipping the rest of the map)
kz_42_amazon (If you jump from the top of the map you can ledge and then hit the timer to fly and skip a lot. This way of starting the timer shouldn't be allowed, it's just stupid)
kz_6fd_volcano (This is normally a really cool map to play, but then someone found a lame ass way to skip almost everything with a "duckbug")
kz_ep_gigablock_b01 (This is also an awesome map, but a sc was found ofc, that skips like 3 min..)
kz_excavation (This map can be finished in 2 ways, so why is there only one wr ?) [+minimap] [-minimap]
kz_faw_cathedral_e (Another map destroyed by a lame sc)
kz_faw_cathedral_h (Same with this map)
kz_man_alienbase (Another map destroyed by a lame sc)
kz_kzfr_bhopspace (Map wasted)
kz_man_bhopdesert (Map wasted)
kz_man_bhopocean (Map wasted)
kz_man_bhopsnow (Map wasted)
kz_midnight (Lame sc that skips almost the entire map)
kz_rambo_xen (Another map destroyed by a lame sc)
kz_space (An awesome 2 min map DESTROYED by a lame ass 6 sec sc -.-)
kz_wsp_marioland (Destroyed by 2 really LAME sc's)
kz_wsp_valleyclimb (Destroyed by a big sc)
risk_compound (Another map destroyed by a lame sc)
risk_ministry (Another map destroyed by a lame sc)
trC_climbgarden (Another map destroyed by a lame sc)

Nice to see I'm not the only one who thinks these kind of shortcuts are terrible lame. (Y)

Originally posted by kzno`Psycho
I know this won't save KZ forever, but it would probably make people want to record more for a while, here is my idea:

Give maps that has been destroyed by shortcuts: [+sc] [-sc]

Here are the maps I really think should get it and some other stupid maps that I don't see the point in having on the list:


kz_space (An awesome 2 min map DESTROYED by a lame ass 6 sec sc -.-)


yes for example like kz_space is one of my favorite maps to play its really fun and not hard. I would love to see some sick runs :s Sad to see it destroyed so bad :s

ndR moviemaker Tournament #214/06/2012 12:38

Originally posted by kzno`Psycho
I know this won't save KZ forever, but it would probably make people want to record more for a while, here is my idea:

Give maps that has been destroyed by shortcuts: [+sc] [-sc]

Here are the maps I really think should get it and some other stupid maps that I don't see the point in having on the list:

bkz_wallblock (Has a really lame sc that skips almost the entire map)
cg_d2block_ez (Has a really stupid bug on the ladder that makes you fly to the end timer, REALLY ??)
cg_industry (Has a weird slide bug that skips the entire map)
cg_islands (Has a slide sc that skips a big part of the map)
dg_winterclimb (This map is 3min+ , but there is a sc that skips everything, stupid)
kzse_bhopblock (Has a stupid sc when you get inside, you can jump all the way down to the timer, skipping the rest of the map)
kz_42_amazon (If you jump from the top of the map you can ledge and then hit the timer to fly and skip a lot. This way of starting the timer shouldn't be allowed, it's just stupid)
kz_6fd_volcano (This is normally a really cool map to play, but then someone found a lame ass way to skip almost everything with a "duckbug")
kz_ep_gigablock_b01 (This is also an awesome map, but a sc was found ofc, that skips like 3 min..)
kz_excavation (This map can be finished in 2 ways, so why is there only one wr ?) [+minimap] [-minimap]
kz_faw_cathedral_e (Another map destroyed by a lame sc)
kz_faw_cathedral_h (Same with this map)
kz_man_alienbase (Another map destroyed by a lame sc)
kz_kzfr_bhopspace (Map wasted)
kz_man_bhopdesert (Map wasted)
kz_man_bhopocean (Map wasted)
kz_man_bhopsnow (Map wasted)
kz_midnight (Lame sc that skips almost the entire map)
kz_rambo_xen (Another map destroyed by a lame sc)
kz_space (An awesome 2 min map DESTROYED by a lame ass 6 sec sc -.-)
kz_wsp_marioland (Destroyed by 2 really LAME sc's)
kz_wsp_valleyclimb (Destroyed by a big sc)
risk_compound (Another map destroyed by a lame sc)
risk_ministry (Another map destroyed by a lame sc)
trC_climbgarden (Another map destroyed by a lame sc)


Just FYI: We're seriously discussing about this idea in the staff for more than a week now :-)

plowed14/06/2012 13:21

Originally posted by kzno`Psycho
I know this won't save KZ forever, but it would probably make people want to record more for a while, here is my idea:

Give maps that has been destroyed by shortcuts: [+sc] [-sc]

Here are the maps I really think should get it and some other stupid maps that I don't see the point in having on the list:

bkz_wallblock (Has a really lame sc that skips almost the entire map)
cg_d2block_ez (Has a really stupid bug on the ladder that makes you fly to the end timer, REALLY ??)
cg_industry (Has a weird slide bug that skips the entire map)
cg_islands (Has a slide sc that skips a big part of the map)
dg_winterclimb (This map is 3min+ , but there is a sc that skips everything, stupid)
kzse_bhopblock (Has a stupid sc when you get inside, you can jump all the way down to the timer, skipping the rest of the map)
kz_42_amazon (If you jump from the top of the map you can ledge and then hit the timer to fly and skip a lot. This way of starting the timer shouldn't be allowed, it's just stupid)
kz_6fd_volcano (This is normally a really cool map to play, but then someone found a lame ass way to skip almost everything with a "duckbug")
kz_ep_gigablock_b01 (This is also an awesome map, but a sc was found ofc, that skips like 3 min..)
kz_excavation (This map can be finished in 2 ways, so why is there only one wr ?) [+minimap] [-minimap]
kz_faw_cathedral_e (Another map destroyed by a lame sc)
kz_faw_cathedral_h (Same with this map)
kz_man_alienbase (Another map destroyed by a lame sc)
kz_kzfr_bhopspace (Map wasted)
kz_man_bhopdesert (Map wasted)
kz_man_bhopocean (Map wasted)
kz_man_bhopsnow (Map wasted)
kz_midnight (Lame sc that skips almost the entire map)
kz_rambo_xen (Another map destroyed by a lame sc)
kz_space (An awesome 2 min map DESTROYED by a lame ass 6 sec sc -.-)
kz_wsp_marioland (Destroyed by 2 really LAME sc's)
kz_wsp_valleyclimb (Destroyed by a big sc)
risk_compound (Another map destroyed by a lame sc)
risk_ministry (Another map destroyed by a lame sc)
trC_climbgarden (Another map destroyed by a lame sc)


good point, Lets hope they will do it like this.

WOOFix14/06/2012 14:42(edited 14/06/2012 14:44)

Originally posted by plowed
but not active (map) admins.

kzno`Psycho14/06/2012 16:08(edited 14/06/2012 20:09)

Originally posted by ndR
Just FYI: We're seriously discussing about this idea in the staff for more than a week now :-)


Good to hear! =)

kaynerecord holder15/06/2012 00:44

Originally posted by ndR
Just FYI: We're seriously discussing about this idea in the staff for more than a week now :-)


Personally I wouldnt like to see that here on XJ, how would you decide what scs are allowed and that arent in the +/- routes?
having the -sc route free from all scs would just be stupid.

it would also give Vee more work when watching the demos, and what about when people finds new scs?

the rule barely worked out on cosy, I really doubt it would work here.


Ps: clintmo_longjumper 256scs would also be allowed again, wouldnt it? :)

kalinskY15/06/2012 00:54

Originally posted by kayne
Originally posted by ndR
Just FYI: We're seriously discussing about this idea in the staff for more than a week now :-)


Personally I wouldnt like to see that here on XJ, how would you decide what scs are allowed and that arent in the +/- routes?
having the -sc route free from all scs would just be stupid.

it would also give Vee more work when watching the demos, and what about when people finds new scs?

the rule barely worked out on cosy, I really doubt it would work here.


Ps: clintmo_longjumper 256scs would also be allowed again, wouldnt it? :)

I was wondering the same thing. I guess there should be some rules in adding -/+sc to the map records. Some maps are really destroyed by those monster short cuts that makes the wr 6 sec,instead of 2 min. I'm not talking about a certain map,but kzse_bhopblock is quite good for example.So maybe,one of the rules could be "the time that you save must be less than 1(?!) minute" :rtfm:

kalinskY15/06/2012 00:56(edited 15/06/2012 00:58)

Originally posted by s0nne
Originally posted by kayne
Originally posted by ndR
Just FYI: We're seriously discussing about this idea in the staff for more than a week now :-)


Personally I wouldnt like to see that here on XJ, how would you decide what scs are allowed and that arent in the +/- routes?
having the -sc route free from all scs would just be stupid.

it would also give Vee more work when watching the demos, and what about when people finds new scs?

the rule barely worked out on cosy, I really doubt it would work here.


Ps: clintmo_longjumper 256scs would also be allowed again, wouldnt it? :)

I was wondering the same thing. I guess there should be some rules in adding -/+sc to the map records. Some maps are really destroyed by those monster short cuts that makes the wr 6 sec,instead of 2 min. I'm not talking about a certain map,but kzse_bhopblock is quite good for example.So maybe,one of the rules could be : the time that you save must be less than 1(?!) minute , or if we are talking about block,it should be above ... 270units (?!) :rtfm:

PS sry for quoting myself,i was trying to update the previous one (:

Wikky23/06/2012 06:58

kz_man_all ( Map wasted )

nikksan23/06/2012 11:51

Making [+sc][-sc] is good.Just dont delete the WR`s done with the shortcuts.

minor27/06/2012 15:05

Kreedzing always meant to be a fun way to get you feel relaxed, relieved in a certain way. While reading different topics, news about demos and so on, all I can see is how people dont stop arguing about who is the best and who's not. ( you keep yellin' like that would help with smth! ) Try stop doing such things, instead, support each other.

Remote27/06/2012 19:25

Nobody can save us.

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