Cheating: VNS
Originally posted by kQbmigforget the slowmo, can you see the bhop hack without looking at +camin commands?
his bhop lines seemed legit otherwise.
yes you can see that it's cheated, but thats with private tools that i wouldn't show to the public and you can pretty much see by some other things that i wont be explaining
Originally posted by leggieas you can see here i provided him what he was looking for and he rejected it instantly...
I will repeat. I need jump like this:

VNS have a lot of such jumps, even tho his previous and next jumps with 5-6 +jump commands.
Look at gaps between jumps - they are around 67msec what is normal if you are not in the tunnel or so.
Yes, you gave me 1 +jump command with 2 frames on the ground, but this jumps was in the tunnel what means that its absolutely normal to have low amount of jumps since you have x2 less time to make bhops and you will concentrate more on jump timing than doing a lot of jumps. Also, you didn't link demo of this jump what makes it suspicious.
Originally posted by kQbmigso if fame's hack didnt have +cameo thingy, you wouldn't be able to detect anything.
that means there's an undetected hack out there.
Yes, I have latest Juice's hack and it don't have any +camin shit. Also it's fails a lot of bhops what making it more undetectable and its also the reason why he even with hacks needs to put some effort on doing wrs. ALSO it have that suspicious jumps similar to VNS.
Remember my post about how the hack works?
How bhop hacks work:
1. Bhop hack detects if you on the ground or in air
2. If you in the air then nothing is happens, but if you on the ground it checks your speed and if it's 299.9 or less it jumps with staying on ground for minimum time (1msec or 1 frame). But if you have more that 300 speed hack will jump only on the second frame on the ground to get as much speed as possible because if you will have 300+ speed and jump after 1 frame on the ground your speed will go down to 240, but if you will stay on the ground for 2 frames your speed will go down only to 270 what is much better/faster. But you should know that not all hacks that Juice made doing it to be more undetectable.
Also there can be jumps with 3 frames on the ground, also to make it more undetectable, but such jumps always gives you disadvantage so there is minimum of them.
3. Since hack knows when you one the ground and when not he don't need to spam +jump commands, he need to send it only once in right moment, and thats looks like this:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/0GqtoO8.png[/IMG]
It's not hard to notice that jumps is obviously cheated and you need to hide it somehow so hack sends some other +jump commands with random gaps and count.
Now, your bhops looks like this:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/tglzSAt.png[/IMG]
In VNS' case hack just doesn't add this fake jump commands sometimes.
RIP in Peace 1.6 Kreedz, thanks to Juice..