About the KZMod 2.0 first release

I was thinking about this and the skill argument, and I honestly believe skill is still essential to completing bhop - you still need to strafe properly, time the jump, there are just no worries about losing speed because of "random" issues and luck. I feel generally this is a fun change, even the most skilled players benefit from more reliable jumping. Not having to worry about losing your speed also makes bhop more feasible in kz, and you can focus on personal skill and technique with no fear now. It's a smoother experience and less frustrating.

hi raptor. There's no func_pushable in hammer. It would be cool if you could make it teleport back to its start position after you stop your timer or start a new run. The +use flybug should also be removed imo. I never used func_pushable in 1.6 because of those bugs

oh also. please make them able to trigger things e.g. pushing them into a trigger_multiple or onto a func_button with the flag called 'touch activates' (not sure if that's what they're called in kzmod hammer).

lol i had a Tomb Raider/Lara Croft idea in mind while writing this. anyway I have another idea now. add an entity called func_pickup. This is an entity you pick up ingame and can use it at a later point in the map. It could be a key or a level card or something else.

Ok i have another idea now lol. Well since it's pretty easy to create spheres in kzmod hammer. Maybe you could have an entity called func_boulder. It should basically just make the entity roll on the floor once you activate it or w/e. you could also add damage on hit as one of its properties.

ok 1 more idea - func_movingladder, pretty self-explanatory right? My friend SilverNinja is currently making a moving ladder in 1.6 for his huge 2 man map (won't spoil too much) by using some work around to make it happen.

Ok that's it for now. I'd appreciate if you'd look into some of my ideas and perhaps even make them become real.

indeed timing the bhop must not be easy. i hope you keep kzmod as close as possible to 1.6. gl

lol you think the difficulty level attracts cheaters? is someone wants to cheat he will

It gives me mixed feelings when I think of this "bhop fixing". On the one hand, why fixing something that isn't broken? Difficulty of being able to time bhop is what classifies tiers and this is where all the competition takes place. What you're doing is nuking off the better part of the gameplay. Cheaters exist. Cheaters exist in any game, there is just no way you can stop cheaters, resorting to such measures can as easily be equated to if cs:go would have implemented auto aim feature to the game. At least let the true kz connoisseurs enjoy the real kz.

On the other hand
nah just that.

You play this game for years and I haven't seen any complaint from you before recent announce of kzmod, yet you do success with shitty slowdowns. Don't tell me your only impulse for that is to keep cheaters in distance because in your last post you worded it as if you would hate the game and only. I'm not getting it tbh.

Ok, as I understand the explanation from Raptor, he changed the frame-based timing of getting a good bhop to a time-based timing (50ms instead of 1 frame if I remember right).
That means it makes no difference if you have 100fps or 300fps, you still have the same chances to do a good bhop.
About the random bhop thing, imo its just a mindgame. From my old recording days I can tell you, that the closer you get to the endtimer, the more nervous you get and the possibility of not getting the bhop right and fail raises.
The "random" slowdown is just a indicator for missing bhop-skill :)

I can understand where he comes from, and I can also understand why a fix like this would be necessary for a standalone game like kzmod which is entirely focused on jumping. Why? For instance, if kzmod is aimed to attract more players outside our already existing communities and cs veterans, the core mechanics of 1.6 jumping is too complicated for real newbies to understand, let alone master it within few hours to enjoy the game.
Sure it will suck for people that have already gone through the process of learning it and have years of experience playing it on 1.6, BUT I am assuming the bigger picture of this project is to attract more players to the game. And by doing so, they have to dumb down the gameplay (which in 1.6 are very luck based if you look it on a coding perspective) so it can appeal to everyone, even to those fresh newbies that just installed the game can enjoy the game and get the same experience as everyone else.

My theory is that in order to get kzmod fully recognized and get it out for the world to enjoy it, they would seriously need to dumb it down a lot. I would even go as far and say that they would probably have to code in so that every strafe you do gives everyone the same advantage in both stat and speed wise, so a complete fresh player could compete with the veterans and not feel obligated to play the game in hours end and still not see any results. Also, problem with the 1.6 jumping is that it's a huge mess. For us who have played it for years already know how it works and it's easy, but imagine if the game went mainstream and hundreds of thousands new players swarmed to the game, but find themselves tied behind random generated number game which defines how well their jump and bhop performs? That's a HUUUUGE disadvantage for them, and a massive flaw for the business. It's about bringing in more people, right? Probably wouldn't go far in its current form.
This is called balance, and it's also one of the very reasons a lot of games get dumbed down, so that everyone can do well on that said game and still feel like he/she accomplished something by pressing the same buttons as everyone else.
Just imagine how many outcries and whining there would be if it became mainstream with 1.6 based jumping? It would be horribly toxic community.

TLDR: From a business stand point, these fixes are essential for a game to sell for the general public. You don't sell an FPS game with a weird code mechanic where you can do a button smashing combo which suddenly makes your gun unload 10 times faster at your enemies, right? That's not balanced and is a game breaking mechanic.
And this is exactly why we see nerfs on multiplayer games, like it or not, but when something becomes overpowered it will kill the experience for others. Left unfixed leaves unhappy costumers, unhappy costumers leave the game, game left alone leaves a dead game. You get the point.

Bhop feels faster than 1.6 for me. I comboed everything before climb part on goldbhop on first try, LOL. Is it because the game is tickrate-dependent or is it a mess in the code?:o

Raptor, you should also increase the maximum amount of time you can stay on blocks, 0.06s for example because sometimes when you get super slowdown (4 and more frame son ground in 1.6) you can still reach other bhop blocks even with l0w speed ;)

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