kzfr_wallclimb_race and related maps
28/02/2019 21:38fyksen opened the door first and started from the room. what about clintmo_bhopwarehouse then? same case
28/02/2019 21:42it is the same case
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaIqzECjRgw
well, both wallclimb_race and clintmo_bhopwarehouse demos do not follow this rule:
You may not destroy breakable objects (like bridges for example) or push buttons (with an exception for HP boosters), or push movable objects, before you have pushed the start button.
if admins consider that both demos are legal, then rules may be changed or u dont give a fuck to them
:)
28/02/2019 22:35https://xtreme-jumps.eu/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?62983.0#post_62985
Originally posted by kyserwell, both wallclimb_race and clintmo_bhopwarehouse demos do not follow this rule:
You may not destroy breakable objects (like bridges for example) or push buttons (with an exception for HP boosters), or push movable objects, before you have pushed the start button.
if admins consider that both demos are legal, then rules may be changed or u dont give a fuck to them
:)
Start button was pushed first in both cases ? The rule does't say, you may not push button through the wall? You may /setstart whereever you want, dont you?
28/02/2019 23:32He did not break anything or opened any door,moved pushable object etc... he just pressed Start button from other side of wall.
Don't be so jealous.
10 years ago, they found solution. After those years, we still talkin about doors. xD
Originally posted by SAJKEEHe did not break anything or opened any door,moved pushable object etc... he just pressed Start button from other side of wall.
Don't be so jealous.
tell me... how in a normal way you could get through that room (behind the start button)? oh ye, you must go through a door (movable object) to get on there.,. so rules are broken
01/03/2019 00:19(edited 01/03/2019 00:22)if I remember right rule says you can press the start button from every reachable position, so imo it's legit to press button through the wall on bhopwarehouse. In case of kz_wallclimb_race and kz_spain it's legit to keep the door open because you have to walk in to the room with start button to start the run (it's the only possible way to reach the start) and that's why you can leave the door open. am i right guys?
also kz_demo doesn't help in this case, because plugin teleports you in front of the start button immediately after every restart but theoretically you still have to walk into the room
01/03/2019 00:23Well just check if that place is reachable without opening the door.
A legit case is zr_hetablock hard or kz_dbh_pipehop because u can reach both start positions without breaking any objet or moving some doors or whatever, just climbing/bhopping.
If people still dont understand this easy understabdable rule, then go back to school boys.
If admins decide to not follow this rule for those cases (wallclimb race and bhopwarehouse) is another stuff...
i think wallclimb and bhopwarehouse arent the same case...
wallclimb is just like a smart sc..(or md?) and would be cool to be added as new route
about clintmo i think its totally ok
Originally posted by JocAi think wallclimb and bhopwarehouse arent the same case...
wallclimb is just like a smart sc..(or md?) and would be cool to be added as new route
about clintmo i think its totally ok
Would like to read some arguments for your opinion.. why are both ok.? According to the current rules they are not legit, dont mind if you like the sc at wallclimb race or the way of doing bhopwarehouse is cool... just read what is written at rules page and think...
And of course they are the same cases... in both cases you go through a door before pressing the start button... in a normal way you CANT reach both rooms if you dont walk to open the doors.
I cant understand why it is so difficult to understand a single rule.
So starting runs from the sky, reaching with hook, to keep ducking after pressing buttons should not be forbidden, because is "smart" too
01/03/2019 02:05Originally posted by kyserOriginally posted by SAJKEEHe did not break anything or opened any door,moved pushable object etc... he just pressed Start button from other side of wall.
Don't be so jealous.
tell me... how in a normal way you could get through that room (behind the start button)? oh ye, you must go through a door (movable object) to get on there.,. so rules are broken
Tell me you too, do you even tried to record some demo ???
When you set your start position where you want and say /start all broken object will repair...all doors will close... all pushable object will back in first set position.
And second thing you can go through wall by NoClip (or hook on some maps )
This is LEGAL and done !!!
its forbiden cuz you cant go up in the sky withOUT hook, simple as that
i mean, on other thread you read what other people said...you can check kz_spain also, if the button is avaivable to start through wall (house) on that map, i think it would be also allowed, no matter of its doors there..so same thing for clintmo_bhopwarehouse
if the mapper knew that stupid start to his map, im sure he will make more thinker wall, so then u will need to start timer -> open door...
also about wallclimb map, you are pressing first the start timer...so what else to discuss there? i hope i undestood well how that sc is working :D
Originally posted by SAJKEEOriginally posted by kyserOriginally posted by SAJKEEHe did not break anything or opened any door,moved pushable object etc... he just pressed Start button from other side of wall.
Don't be so jealous.
tell me... how in a normal way you could get through that room (behind the start button)? oh ye, you must go through a door (movable object) to get on there.,. so rules are broken
Tell me you too, do you even tried to record some demo ???
When you set your start position where you want and say /start all broken object will repair...all doors will close... all pushable object will back in first set position.
And second thing you can go through wall by NoClip (or hook on some maps )
This is LEGAL and done !!!
Lol so u say that if u type /start, then the rule is shit because all things came to its default positions... and then u are talking about /noclip... boths are plugins and configs by users, anything is default man...
So with your thinking, u can hook wherever u want and set a start position, same as using noclip.
Ridiculous... not a valid argument.
I feel like no one who replied actually understands the problem, but kyser is right and the rule should be edited.
Originally posted by JocAits forbiden cuz you cant go up in the sky withOUT hook, simple as that
These case should be also forbidden cuz you cant go to those rooms withOUT first going through a door, so u are moving a movable object before pressing start button, simple as that