kz_longjumps3(s) Community Alternatives
08/06/2020 18:42Originally posted by ComandeerNow the course has been changed and the administration wishes for mappers to present their own versions of the map here. Which is basically what everyone wanted from the start, I'm struggling to see why more slander is necessary?
I second this. I too expressed my disappointing thoughts in one reply earlier but come on guys, the admins opened up the project, gave us the opportunity we wanted, so I think its time to stop this nonsense drama and get to work instead, whoever is interested. People argue about everything on this website it's crazy and silly at the same time.
Let's see how many people will actually participate from the ones whining. Lol, i bet it won't be many... if any.
08/06/2020 20:00I am sorry, Comandeer , slander?
Slender: noun=the action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation.
verb=make false and damaging statements about (someone).
Can you please elaborate on accusing people of questioning dubious course of action the administration has taken on this project?
Nothing false has been said, more so, actual information was asked for and greeted only with silenced and vague words.
Damaging seems to be done to the community by the actions done in hidden.
Well isnt this saying a lot about the approach of the matter , that the staff has taken,psh ?
This is the whole discussion i started in last thread =>Community involvement from start !!!!
Yes perd0, people need to get to work because 1 month is all they give after months of hidden project that was for the entire community to benefit from, if worked together and coming to a result that will satisfy for years to come.
They have just robbed the entire current active community of the opportunity of a life time(for a XJ member) of great time and enjoyment in making,participating, discussing with fellow members of all sorts( jumpers,mappers, demo checker, movie makers , etc) about the project that is kz_ljs maps.
Instead of giving time to catch up to community to show their grave mistake in the approach of hidding the active work on this project, they chose to cut shorter time and rush whoever notices and has time, to minimize the opportunity we have to discuss in forum on all sorts of topics ppl might bring up and mapper interacting with each other find the best vision in creating whatever this could have been.
-This post above all comes not even from the Leader of our community.
-This post that is a mere forum post and not even a newspost on such important project.
-Does not even come with acknowledgement of the mistake made and wish for coming together and make possible what we can together as community.
-It comes absent of exact information,it comes with blame (They say at start of this thread :"due to recent events"), it comes centering their maps made (not of equal of what could come of other's mind) , it comes with lack of interest to bring the community any inch closer together, it desires just finished job.
People should not have it so, they should speak up when it feels like something is unjust.
And so, I spoke !
08/06/2020 20:22Originally posted by pshLet's see how many people will actually participate from the ones whining. Lol, i bet it won't be many... if any.
They will never be satisfied somehow. perd0 seemed to be the only one grateful after the news about this map. Looking foward to see your work perd0!
08/06/2020 20:29Originally posted by Spider1I am sorry, Comandeer , slander?
Slender: noun=the action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation.
verb=make false and damaging statements about (someone).
Can you please elaborate on accusing people of questioning dubious course of action the administration has taken on this project?
Nothing false has been said, more so, actual information was asked for and greeted only with silenced and vague words.
On a scale of 1-10 how important was it to pick up a single badly used word from my statement just to continue with this subject? Your opinion has been seen and understood, now I'm sure the problems with this topic can be closed and work can begin?
08/06/2020 20:43(edited 08/06/2020 20:45)Originally posted by CommandeerOn a scale of 1-10 how important was it to pick up a single badly used word from my statement just to continue with this subject? Your opinion has been seen and understood, now I'm sure the problems with this topic can be closed and work can begin?
Its rubbish to see each time some one lays down a simple question you go around it and state something irrelevant.
Go think before you submit shit, so we don't need to read something that isn't stated clearly. not my fault you cannot speak english?
EDIT:
This topic also gets ridiculed for the reason its set up again.
shit is abject and infame
I think spider1 explained everything perfectly, but sadly people getting blind when they don't want to face the truth
08/06/2020 20:52(edited 08/06/2020 20:53)Originally posted by MalleeOriginally posted by CommandeerOn a scale of 1-10 how important was it to pick up a single badly used word from my statement just to continue with this subject? Your opinion has been seen and understood, now I'm sure the problems with this topic can be closed and work can begin?
Its rubbish to see each time some one lays down a simple question you go around it and state something irrelevant.
Go think before you submit shit, so we don't need to read something that isn't stated clearly. not my fault you cannot speak english?
The reason why I didn't actually answer anything was because I thought it was obvious what the word meant in the sentence it was in. Or by the looks of it it was clear to most people since they understood my point. This is why I was wondering why would spider1 pick it up like that.
But thanks for the kind words, I'll withdraw from this topic now since I believe my message was understood. Good luck to any mappers taking up on this project, waiting to see what you can come up with!
09/06/2020 02:00(edited 09/06/2020 02:36)I've taken the time to run through the 2 provided maps and note the jump distances required for all the techniques. I did this for my own purposes but if anyone finds this helpful, they are as follows:
kz_longjumps3
LongJump: 230 - 262
230 - 248 by 2
250 - 262 by 1
HighJump: 220 - 249
220 - 238 by 2
240 - 249 by 1
CountJump: 240 - 275
240 - 260 by 5
261 - 275 by 1
BHop LongJump: 220 - 250
220 - 238 by 2
240 - 250 by 1
WeirdJump: 240 - 275
240 - 260 by 5
261 - 275 by 1
LadderJump: 150 - 199
150 - 168 by 2
170 - 199 by 1
Duck BHop: 200 - 225
200 - 204 by 2
205 - 225 by 1
Wallslide: 230 - 259
230 - 259 by 1
kz_longjumps3_slides
Steepslide: 1720 - 1975
1720 - 1800 by 20
1810 - 1850 by 10
1855 - 1975 by 5
Longslide: 230 - 310
230 - 270 by 10
272 - 280 by 2
281 - 310 by 1
Slide LongJump: 190 - 260
190 - 230 by 10
231 - 260 by 1
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duckslide
powerslide*
09/06/2020 23:43do we really need ladderjump and wallslide?
i don't really see ladderjump or wallslide as a real technic not really compareable to countjump.
But let's start from the beginning and discusse the real problem why there is a rage from the secretive longjump3 project.
Let's face it that every kz_longjumps and kz_longjumps2 had a mapping competition running where the best community and admin voted map got the official naming of kz_longjumps.
So why was it so secretive being working on?
Why wasn't it discussed before and why wasn't it being annouced as a mapping competition?
10/06/2020 07:29Originally posted by dEMolitedo we really need ladderjump and wallslide?
i don't really see ladderjump or wallslide as a real technic not really compareable to countjump.
But let's start from the beginning and discusse the real problem why there is a rage from the secretive longjump3 project.
Let's face it that every kz_longjumps and kz_longjumps2 had a mapping competition running where the best community and admin voted map got the official naming of kz_longjumps.
So why was it so secretive being working on?
Why wasn't it discussed before and why wasn't it being annouced as a mapping competition?
All that was discussed already. This current thread is made for discussing the actual new possible map, throwing ideas etc. So please, if you wan’t to continue discussing what went wrong earlier, talk with admins from the mapping team. This thread isn’t made for that. So.. dEmolite, do you have some ideas to share or would you be interested in working with this project? =)
10/06/2020 13:52(edited 10/06/2020 13:52)Originally posted by dEMolitedo we really need ladderjump and wallslide?
i don't really see ladderjump or wallslide as a real technic not really compareable to countjump.
But let's start from the beginning and discusse the real problem why there is a rage from the secretive longjump3 project.
Let's face it that every kz_longjumps and kz_longjumps2 had a mapping competition running where the best community and admin voted map got the official naming of kz_longjumps.
So why was it so secretive being working on?
Why wasn't it discussed before and why wasn't it being annouced as a mapping competition?
I agree. Can't believe people are excited about a new longjump map with these lame ass techniques...
It would be pretty sick if you could add 257.1, 257.2, 257.3 etc LJ block though.
10/06/2020 14:27(edited 10/06/2020 14:28)Originally posted by kQbmigI agree. Can't believe people are excited about a new longjump map with these lame ass techniques...
It would be pretty sick if you could add 257.1, 257.2, 257.3 etc LJ block though.
You can't add '.something' distances in 1.6 engine :D The grid you're building your map in is made of units and the smallest unit available to you is 1 :))))
10/06/2020 14:35Originally posted by perd0Originally posted by kQbmigI agree. Can't believe people are excited about a new longjump map with these lame ass techniques...
It would be pretty sick if you could add 257.1, 257.2, 257.3 etc LJ block though.
You can't add '.something' distances in 1.6 engine :D The grid you're building your map in is made of units and the smallest unit available to you is 1 :))))
lets all enjoy the way perd0 fell for it
10/06/2020 16:29Originally posted by perd0Originally posted by kQbmigI agree. Can't believe people are excited about a new longjump map with these lame ass techniques...
It would be pretty sick if you could add 257.1, 257.2, 257.3 etc LJ block though.
You can't add '.something' distances in 1.6 engine :D The grid you're building your map in is made of units and the smallest unit available to you is 1 :))))
I've heard you can do smaller units than 1 with Quark.
10/06/2020 16:45Originally posted by Gorbachev_xOriginally posted by perd0Originally posted by kQbmigI agree. Can't believe people are excited about a new longjump map with these lame ass techniques...
It would be pretty sick if you could add 257.1, 257.2, 257.3 etc LJ block though.
You can't add '.something' distances in 1.6 engine :D The grid you're building your map in is made of units and the smallest unit available to you is 1 :))))
I've heard you can do smaller units than 1 with Quark.
i heard that it aint
Wait a second...kz_longjumps3 without ladder jump? Bad idea
10/06/2020 18:10(edited 10/06/2020 18:33)Originally posted by DemonstratorBGWait a second...kz_longjumps3 without ladder jump? Bad idea
Okay, from now on i am going to banter these posts
You with your ass, go make a fucking alternative version or shut the hell up
EDIT:
Afaik there is no one working on an alternative. I spoke with memek, kqbmig, sajkee, nubz, spider1, perd0, chichin (no reply).
I don't believe this is completely true that none of the aboth is working on something.
I feel ashamed i am the only one going to give it a try, but you guys shouldn't whine if the current version ends up on your plate
10/06/2020 20:34Originally posted by NubzSo.. dEmolite, do you have some ideas to share or would you be interested in working with this project? =)
Sorry but for only a month time frame limit, my free time is too rare for that.
Like spider had written, the time frame needs to be longer.
And i would suggest removing those from the map
LadderJump, Duck BHop, Wallslide
So that the designers can add more jumps to it instead of referring to one of the old ljmaps.
Longjumps can also start from 235 to remove the 2+ jumps. If the above jumps are removed you have more resources to start longjumps at 230.
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