Longjump: Questions and answers

Started by Z0ck3rOO7
09/02/2008 15:34
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padnaliQ29/04/2008 09:48

Try bigger strafes...

MakiNN06/05/2008 09:33

I need help with AMX MOD to long jump, when i create a steam server, it shut down, i dont understand. How can i install good the AMX mod?

padnaliQ06/05/2008 11:07

http://xtreme-jumps.eu/download.php?view.532 - Just download, save it in your cstrike folder then extract and play. :)

eMTi07/05/2008 14:10

Originally posted by dhaK
Hi,

- Is MaxSpeed related to sync? I mean, sometimes I see ppl doing higher maxspeed w/ less sync. Can someone explain me why?

It is not really realted. See, if you do 1 strafe@100 sync your max is about 310 or something else. Other way around: look at bibo's 255 stats. 333 maxspeed (dont know exactly now) isnt really much for a 255 block jump. same thing for his prestrafe. maxspeed has alot to do with the strafe itself. is it smooth and at a constant mouse speed... such things affect maxspeed. for the sync: is meant as an indicator how good you hit the point where you switch from "a" to "d" button and change the direction of your mousemovent.

after all: dont care too much about stats.. they are meant to give you hints. not more :)


- This may be too much but I'm just wondering... Can anyone record a movie of him moving his mouse while making 7 or 8 strafes with high sync (using a webcam or something)? Everytime I think about how I have to mouse the mouse to make 7 or 8 strafes with high sync.... I think is imposible for me. For example, my first and second strafe should be larger than the rest, so I spend more time with those two strafes and I have almost no time to make 5 or 6 strafes more.

There has already been an answer on that. But for lj tis could be diffcult. At least you cant really use that, because of delay of the cam and so on..

I'd add some more random questions

- Does the horizontality of the mouse matter? Maybe if your strafes describe an horizontal line (like this ----------------) you'll get higher maxspeed or sth.

As far as i know, it doesnt affect the maxspeed. BUT the more you look up/down the less you have to move your mouse, compared to looking directly forward. This is simply because of the angeles of the pov. Looking down to the ground and moving you mouse 1 centimeter to the left will be bigger a turn than if you would have done it looking straight forward. (crappy english? oO)

but good question, i'd like to knw that too (i mean in a more exact way)..


- Can I confidently jump w/ 200 ping? I want to know if ping has anything to do w/ jumping. I know FPS has nothing to do.

Wrong. fps are very important since all calculations done by the hl engine does, are based on frames. Try longjuming with maxfps 10, and then with 100. You will notice the big difference.

- Where can I find a demo from a top ljer showing him jumping at least for 2 minutes or something like that, I want to see more than one jump b/c is a hassle to see one jump and repeating it over and over again.

i'm going to search for something when I#m back home (at work atm)


greetz, hope i could help

Skydreamer13/05/2008 17:02

Can someone give me maps for newbie? Thanks a lots

padnaliQ13/05/2008 19:36

Originally posted by Skydreamer
Can someone give me maps for newbie? Thanks a lots

Theres no maps for newbies @ lj . Almost every map has lower blocks... :)

RED_@lert15/05/2008 11:57

1.can anyone explain me what is this prestrafe speed ,maxspeed,sync & all those words
2.how to get started?with 1st jump
3.what is the min units that i can start
4.how to practise this mouse movementalong with A&D

da_vortex15/05/2008 12:37(edited 15/05/2008 15:45)

Originally posted by RED_@lert
1.can anyone explain me what is this prestrafe speed ,maxspeed,sync & all those words
2.how to get started?with 1st jump
3.what is the min units that i can start
4.how to practise this mouse movementalong with A&D


1. Prestrafe speed - is the speed you gain right before taking off the block.
Maxpeed - is the acceleration you gain while in the air by doing multistrafing. This acceleration adds to your prestrafe and you get your maxspeed.
Sync - you have to move your mouse and keys A & D in sync. You move your mouse to the right and you press D, you move it left and press A. Everything is simple.

2. Nothing easier. Start kz_longjumps and go to block 220.

3. If I understand you correctly, there are maps where you can jump 210 block. LJ stats show when you jump at least 215 by default I think.

4. Set your gravity to 0. And then jump and try to multistrafe in sync. With such gravity you can see if you do it right. You have to move your mouse and use keys at the same time in sync. Just don't be in hurry. You don't need 5-6 strafes now. Right now 2-4 strafes is perfect for you. I did 249 with 4 strafes. So for now forget about crazy multistrafing. Set your sensitivity to smth like 3-4.

Practise you prestrafe! It's very important! Right now you need at least 269-270 prestrafe. It's not hard. Read some guides or watch movie guides! You'll do it! You just need practise!

Back in the time I registered on this site and the same as you asked in the chatbox how to longjump... and that I can't even do 220 :))) It took me 3 months to do 250. Good luck to you! Practise - is the key!

RED_@lert16/05/2008 14:12

thanx da_vortex
can anybody tell me how much units are these
1.de_nuke: roof to rock
2.de_nuke: pillar to pillar
3.de_inferno: boxes at bomb site A

P.V.A.B.-jello16/05/2008 22:07

1.192/32

yYy.Je PR@BR@17/05/2008 14:17

How bj block w/o stnadup possible? I does 241 ... :D

RED_@lert17/05/2008 15:17

how can i get these lj stats displayed on my screen so that i can understand where the faults.

f0cus24/05/2008 15:29

oTcHeTo how did you become so good at lj just pratice can you give me some advice for pupil out there who wonna get really good at lj

my lj rec is 242 block 245 stats is stats important or just unnessesary ?

f0cus03/06/2008 22:18

Im losing ability to longjump skills. what could that depend on ? it is just normal, it feels like i cant strafe like i used to? Do you have to have 100 fps to lj good ?

Appreciate if someone could help me :P is it better to luck down more in the ground in your prestrafe, does that give your little advantage?

f0cus03/06/2008 22:24

does that give you more advantage comparting if you look up in your pre strafe instead of looking down

*Im losing my ability

eMTi04/06/2008 12:52

since hl engine is based on fps, it`s better to hae 00 fps constantly. But after all there are people who can even do 250s and such with something like 60-70fps. But its easier if you have 100..

loosing skills.. well there are about 10000000 threads and posts about this.. just do some climb/bhop maps or whatever. Skills will come back.. dont worry. I personally prefer playing bhop maps before ljing to get a good feeling for my strafes.

looking up or straight forward when doing a pre:
depends on you! just try do have at least 270+ no matter where you look. But there is no advantage in any case --> speed matters, not the direction you are looking at. I always look down like 45° because i dont have a high sensitivity, but this is just me :)

the only effect in looking down/straight is that your strafes will be a bit bigger (looking down) or smaller (looking straight), but this has something to do with the angles :).. no real advantage at this point again --> depends on your sensitivity settings.

f0cus04/06/2008 18:54

Thx eMTI do i have to strafe more if i wanna jump more then the 242 block ? im using 4 strafes right now

f0cus04/06/2008 19:09

*Does looking down in your prestrafe give more of an advantage compared to looking up*

endx05/06/2008 21:48

I have some serious problems with my long jumps. I useto jump 245 but now i can't even do 240 (236-238 if luck is on my side). I have another problem it doesn't matter what i do my second strafe meaningless because it doesn't add any speed, that never happened before. I think that my second strafe is the problem, but like i said it doesn't matter what i do it doesn't add speed or it adds very low of it. And for final question: is 60 fps good for lj?

f0cus05/06/2008 21:53

endx since hl engine is based on fps, it`s better to hae 00 fps constantly. But after all there are people who can even do 250s and such with something like 60-70fps. But its easier if you have 100..

Loosing skills, well there are a lot of threads about that
just play so climb/bhops maps and i promise your skill will come back try to the the last strafe little bigger then you will succesess i lost my skill to but my skillz come back, GL

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