Demos with speedboost from top of the map

Started by sambb
02/10/2008 22:42
Page 3 of 5
SchlumPF07/10/2008 21:08(edited 07/10/2008 21:10)

i can just quote my comment on the new poll
"kreedzing is about getting the fastest time which is possible on a map"
but i would like to add that the time has to be done without any tools etc which make you have an unfair advantage. all those things you guys are whining about are engine bugs like cj lj etc... kz exists BECAUSE OF these bugs and there will always be yet unknown ways. ppl always said no record except the 0:00 ones are perfect.

pls stop writing all those mimimi posts and accept that this is no unfair advantage. the only thing which ever happend in the story of kz which may be discussed is bhopping with mwheel imo but not a simple bug.

Om108/10/2008 02:07

I think this is just lame, would it be fare if one guy got to start the 100m buy starting futher back and the others would start when he passes them? (hope u understand what I mean)

Fliborecord holder Tournament #208/10/2008 08:13

Originally posted by Om1
I think this is just lame, would it be fare if one guy got to start the 100m buy starting futher back and the others would start when he passes them? (hope u understand what I mean)


That's their problem for not doing the sc!

ndR moviemaker Tournament #208/10/2008 21:07

As I said in the poll:

A rule for alternate ways could be written like that:

" A [+sc] way is allowed on a map in order to record it ONLY if the SC skips more than ~50% of the map.
Only admins are able to judge or not if a map is under this rule. "

Don't you think it's a good idea?

leggie08/10/2008 22:52

yes i think that would be the best way. ^

Ratmen09/10/2008 00:39

Originally posted by ndR
As I said in the poll:

A rule for alternate ways could be written like that:

" A [+sc] way is allowed on a map in order to record it ONLY if the SC skips more than ~50% of the map.
Only admins are able to judge or not if a map is under this rule. "

Don't you think it's a good idea?

Affirmative!

sambb09/10/2008 01:19

[+sc] tags would be so ridiculous imo

PepoMerca09/10/2008 03:07(edited 09/10/2008 03:08)

Originally posted by ndR
As I said in the poll:

A rule for alternate ways could be written like that:

" A [+sc] way is allowed on a map in order to record it ONLY if the SC skips more than ~50% of the map.
Only admins are able to judge or not if a map is under this rule. "

Don't you think it's a good idea?


wise words

Originally posted by sambb
[+sc] tags would be so ridiculous imo


[+shortcut] then :)


r0fl09/10/2008 03:28(edited 09/10/2008 15:51)

Originally posted by sambb
What I mean by this is that some people jump from the peak of the map to the startbutton and gain extra speed or jump height when they press startbutton at the beginning of their demos. (For example look at Fact or Fictions demo on kzno_xtremeblock)

I personally think that this technique is stupid and should not be allowed on wr's... Isn't it kinda weird that when u start jumping the map u "start" from the top? This technique can and WILL destroy almost every single map if admins wont take this seriously.

I have also noticed that this technique is used on axn demos but those demos seem ok to me because the speedboost is made on groundlevel and it's axn's feature.

Ofc I'm suggesting to delete those lame speedboost demos on non-axn maps and update the rules for this too.

What do you think?


w0rd, last target demo got beaten just becase of the timer slide sC(correct me if im wrong, havent watched the demo), with insane climbing afterwards of course, but supa would;ve "only" tied targets time without it..

@others 1 second is all it takes.. so this timer sliding will be enough to beat a lot of records, i dont get why you say its only xtremeblock?

edit: its not even about the time, this sc leads to more nervousity and less fun just because you have to waste time doing it at the beginning of the map and get it perfectly.. so now you dont even know you'll START the run/button 10 out of 10 times which is the main reason of why it sux

leggie09/10/2008 10:29

yes but if supa had hit the vents first time he would have beaten it by maybe 3 seconds... so the timer slide wouldn't of counted...

Kevlarrrr09/10/2008 10:31

leggie, thats what they call a fail, so the timer shit did help him. so take 3 seconds off the previous WR holders demo, targets?

Grrr11/10/2008 20:58

now I think its a "mapper fail" , so I hope new maps wouldn't have this kind of SCs :)

pLaguE^12/10/2008 03:55(edited 12/10/2008 03:55)

I can agree with everyone that says there should be a [+shortcut and [-shortcut] but, on maps like "kz_ea_highblock" there should not be one they save maybe 1-4 secs that really doesnt help all that much, unless ur really, really slow when u look at a map like "kzno_xtremeblock" that sc actually skips "jumps" stuff like on highblock really doesnt even skip any "level" on the map, so theres no real point in adding +sc and -sc in maps that have a timer "shortcut" that dont actually skip blocks or jumps.

Dacca12/10/2008 12:39(edited 12/10/2008 14:08)

Originally posted by pLaguEE
...on maps like "kz_ea_highblock" there should not be one they save maybe 1-4 secs that really doesnt help all that much, unless ur really, really slow when u look at a map like "kzno_xtremeblock" that sc actually skips "jumps" stuff like on highblock really doesnt even skip any "level" on the map.


In current kzno_xtremeblock WR, Fact didn't skip any jumps with speedboost SC :)

SchlumPF12/10/2008 13:12(edited 12/10/2008 13:13)

maybe in the current wr demo dacca but hel managed to jump of the ramp to the end of the first stage.
fact skipped the firsts tage throguh cjing.

pLaguE^12/10/2008 18:51

Thats wut i was getting at dacca, its not the fact that fact or fiction cjed it, but u are still able to surf up that block

lonewolf VIP17/10/2008 18:21

You are not allowed to use any metamod-plugins that would give you an advantage to other jumpers. You may not either use any other timer than the original one.


Speed boost i think isn't any plugin.

Grrr17/10/2008 19:35

Originally posted by ikm

You are not allowed to use any metamod-plugins that would give you an advantage to other jumpers. You may not either use any other timer than the original one.


Speed boost i think isn't any plugin.


thats why he made this thread, so admins could think about a new rule ^^

Mews.22/10/2008 18:31

+1 to ndr.

SnOOOpY22/10/2008 19:54

The shortcuts are part of KZ ...

Page 3 of 5

Please log in to post replies.