Religious or Atheist?
Originally posted by BerkutOriginally posted by FuErZzzZa^Death---> this life ----> death again ----> eternal life
sorry but did someone come from that point of eternal life to tell us that it exists? :P
"Does not man see that we have created him from a mere sperm-drop? Yet lo! he is an open quarreller! And he coins similitudes for us and forgets his own creation; He says:"Who can quicken the bones when they are decayed?" . Say , He (Allah) Who created them the first time, will quicken them, and He knows every kind of creation full well. He Who produces for you fire out of the green tree, and behold, you kindle from it.
Has not He Who created the heavens and the earth the power to create the like of them? Yea, and He is indeed the Supreme creator, the All-knowing.
Verily His command, when he intends a thing, is only that He says to it 'Be!' and it is.
So Holy is He, in Whose hand is the kingdom of all things. And to Him will you all be brought back."
(Chapter 36: verses 78-->84)
Originally posted by FuErZzzZa^Originally posted by BerkutOriginally posted by FuErZzzZa^Death---> this life ----> death again ----> eternal life
sorry but did someone come from that point of eternal life to tell us that it exists? :P
"Does not man see that we have created him from a mere sperm-drop? Yet lo! he is an open quarreller! And he coins similitudes for us and forgets his own creation; He says:"Who can quicken the bones when they are decayed?" . Say , He (Allah) Who created them the first time, will quicken them, and He knows every kind of creation full well. He Who produces for you fire out of the green tree, and behold, you kindle from it.
Has not He Who created the heavens and the earth the power to create the like of them? Yea, and He is indeed the Supreme creator, the All-knowing.
Verily His command, when he intends a thing, is only that He says to it 'Be!' and it is.
So Holy is He, in Whose hand is the kingdom of all things. And to Him will you all be brought back."
(Chapter 36: verses 78-->84)
who wrote this? a person who came from afterlife or some medieval fantast?
Originally posted by BerkutOriginally posted by FuErZzzZa^Originally posted by BerkutOriginally posted by FuErZzzZa^Death---> this life ----> death again ----> eternal life
sorry but did someone come from that point of eternal life to tell us that it exists? :P
"Does not man see that we have created him from a mere sperm-drop? Yet lo! he is an open quarreller! And he coins similitudes for us and forgets his own creation; He says:"Who can quicken the bones when they are decayed?" . Say , He (Allah) Who created them the first time, will quicken them, and He knows every kind of creation full well. He Who produces for you fire out of the green tree, and behold, you kindle from it.
Has not He Who created the heavens and the earth the power to create the like of them? Yea, and He is indeed the Supreme creator, the All-knowing.
Verily His command, when he intends a thing, is only that He says to it 'Be!' and it is.
So Holy is He, in Whose hand is the kingdom of all things. And to Him will you all be brought back."
(Chapter 36: verses 78-->84)
who wrote this? a person who came from afterlife or some medieval fantast?
i think this is not strange for you anymore : its Allah word aka the Holy quran ;)
when you see a special text with great and original expressions which you had not seen something like it before its probably the translation of the quran.
"If We had sent down this quran on a mountain, thou wouldst certainly have seen it humbled and rent asunder for fear of Allah. And these are similitudes that we set forth for mankind that they may reflect"
(chapter 59 : verse 22)
Originally posted by FuErZzzZa^do you believe in alliens? xD
aliens = extraterrestrial life
considering how big the universe is and how common earth like planets are, it's almost idiotic to believe that aliens don't exist somewhere out there in the vastness of space. ofcourse i'm not talking about small green men seeking to destroy the earth, but just general life forms whether they would be microscopial or intelligent.
i'm not even sure why you're indirectly 'laughing' at the fact that people believe in aliens, when you sit here quoting stuff from a fucking book that people made when they had no understanding of the universe, life or how we came to be.
take a good look at yourself, what are the possibilities of that what your book is telling you is true (when theres no evidence to back it up) compared to extraterrestrial life existing when taking into consideration how big the universe is and how common stars and earth like bodies are plus the fact that we know that we exist, so why would it be impossible for others to also exist? granted, theres no proof of life beyond earth actually exists yet, but it sure as hell is a lot more plausible than some all-knowing god.
Originally posted by 'vaMpPpPppOriginally posted by FuErZzzZa^do you believe in alliens? xD
book that people made when they had no understanding of the universe
Exactly this book is 1400 years old and look wahts in it
“AND IT IS WE WHO HAVE BUILT THE UNIVERSE WITH [OUR CREATIVE] POWER AND KEEP EXPANDING IT.”[51:47]
NASA has discovered lately that our universe is expanding.
this is just 1 example of many more scientific facts in that book. Thats why i believe on it even now Im an electronic engineer and i passed all my life studying maths and physics. Ye i believe in this book cause its mindblowing and his author (god) is beyond our brain capacity.
Originally posted by FuErZzzZa^Originally posted by 'vaMpPpPppOriginally posted by FuErZzzZa^do you believe in alliens? xD
book that people made when they had no understanding of the universe
Exactly this book is 1400 years old and look wahts in it
“AND IT IS WE WHO HAVE BUILT THE UNIVERSE WITH [OUR CREATIVE] POWER AND KEEP EXPANDING IT.”[51:47]
NASA has discovered lately that our universe is expanding.
this is just 1 example of many more scientific facts in that book. Thats why i believe on it even now Im an electronic engineer and i passed all my life studying maths and physics. Ye i believe in this book cause its mindblowing and his author (god) is beyond our brain capacity.
so if god is beyond "our brain capacity" and he did indeed write this book, how come that theres multiple scientific errors in his book? also, just because that quote specifically mentions an expansion, it does not directly specify in what way they (or god) is expanding it - it doesn't have to mean that whoever wrote that book meant that the universe is expanding, whoever wrote it could also mean that they are expanding it as in expanding life in the universe among other things.
"and allah has made the earth for you as a carpet (spread out)"
"we created the heavens and the earth and all between them in six days, nor did any sense of weariness touch us"
im sure you have ways to explain these away, because religious people always seem to do, but this discussion is pointless because we have way too different beliefs, so we could probably argue on about this subject forever - my intend in my first reply was just to clarify that it is indeed more illogical to believe in a god than it is to believe that extraterrestrial exists in our universe, which you seemed to think was idiotic? or did i misunderstand your "xD" smiley? you seemed to ignore the rest of my reply.
Originally posted by 'vaMpPpPppOriginally posted by FuErZzzZa^Originally posted by 'vaMpPpPppOriginally posted by FuErZzzZa^do you believe in alliens? xD
book that people made when they had no understanding of the universe
Exactly this book is 1400 years old and look wahts in it
“AND IT IS WE WHO HAVE BUILT THE UNIVERSE WITH [OUR CREATIVE] POWER AND KEEP EXPANDING IT.”[51:47]
NASA has discovered lately that our universe is expanding.
this is just 1 example of many more scientific facts in that book. Thats why i believe on it even now Im an electronic engineer and i passed all my life studying maths and physics. Ye i believe in this book cause its mindblowing and his author (god) is beyond our brain capacity.
so if god is beyond "our brain capacity" and he did indeed write this book, how come that theres multiple scientific errors in his book? also, just because that quote specifically mentions an expansion, it does not directly specify in what way they (or god) is expanding it - it doesn't have to mean that whoever wrote that book meant that the universe is expanding, whoever wrote it could also mean that they are expanding it as in expanding life in the universe among other things.
"and allah has made the earth for you as a carpet (spread out)"
"we created the heavens and the earth and all between them in six days, nor did any sense of weariness touch us"
im sure you have ways to explain these away, because religious people always seem to do, but this discussion is pointless because we have way too different beliefs, so we could probably argue on about this subject forever - my intend in my first reply was just to clarify that it is indeed more illogical to believe in a god than it is to believe that extraterrestrial exists in our universe, which you seemed to think was idiotic? or did i misunderstand your "xD" smiley? you seemed to ignore the rest of my reply.
excuse me what are the errors in the book? because Allah is perfect :)
now the verse is very clear and now you want in what directions the universe is expanding? hahahaha . guess what if Allah told us about your questions you will believe on Him ?
i give you 2 more scientific verses about human body:
“NO INDEED! IF HE DOES NOT STOP, WE WILL SEIZE HIM BY THE FOREHEAD, HIS LYING, SINFUL FOREHEAD.”[96:15-16]
the part of our brain wich make lies is the forehead (in front of our head) look how Allah describes it.
“WE SHALL SEND THOSE WHO REJECT OUR REVELATIONS TO THE (HELL) FIRE. WHEN THEIR SKINS HAVE BEEN BURNED AWAY, WE SHALL REPLACE THEM WITH NEW ONES SO THAT THEY MAY CONTINUE TO FEEL THE PAIN: GOD IS ALMIGHTY, ALL-WISE.”[4:56]
Our feeling receptors are in our skins thats why Allah said we replace their skins so they can feel pain.
excuse me what are the errors in the book? because Allah is perfect :)
now the verse is very clear and now you want in what directions the universe is expanding? hahahaha . guess what if Allah told us about your questions you will believe on Him ?
i give you 2 more scientific verses about human body:
“NO INDEED! IF HE DOES NOT STOP, WE WILL SEIZE HIM BY THE FOREHEAD, HIS LYING, SINFUL FOREHEAD.”[96:15-16]
the part of our brain wich make lies is the forehead (in front of our head) look how Allah describes it.
“WE SHALL SEND THOSE WHO REJECT OUR REVELATIONS TO THE (HELL) FIRE. WHEN THEIR SKINS HAVE BEEN BURNED AWAY, WE SHALL REPLACE THEM WITH NEW ONES SO THAT THEY MAY CONTINUE TO FEEL THE PAIN: GOD IS ALMIGHTY, ALL-WISE.”[4:56]
Our feeling receptors are in our skins thats why Allah said we replace their skins so they can feel pain.
excuse me, but did you even read my reply? i clearly mentioned the errors in the book. you also seem to completely ignore chunks of my two previous replies. either that or you just lack basic understanding of english or simply just ignore it. in any case, you're hurting my head. hf in heaven.
Originally posted by 'vaMpPpPppexcuse me what are the errors in the book? because Allah is perfect :)
now the verse is very clear and now you want in what directions the universe is expanding? hahahaha . guess what if Allah told us about your questions you will believe on Him ?
i give you 2 more scientific verses about human body:
“NO INDEED! IF HE DOES NOT STOP, WE WILL SEIZE HIM BY THE FOREHEAD, HIS LYING, SINFUL FOREHEAD.”[96:15-16]
the part of our brain wich make lies is the forehead (in front of our head) look how Allah describes it.
“WE SHALL SEND THOSE WHO REJECT OUR REVELATIONS TO THE (HELL) FIRE. WHEN THEIR SKINS HAVE BEEN BURNED AWAY, WE SHALL REPLACE THEM WITH NEW ONES SO THAT THEY MAY CONTINUE TO FEEL THE PAIN: GOD IS ALMIGHTY, ALL-WISE.”[4:56]
Our feeling receptors are in our skins thats why Allah said we replace their skins so they can feel pain.
excuse me, but did you even read my reply? i clearly mentioned the errors in the book. you also seem to completely ignore chunks of my two previous replies. either that or you just lack basic understanding of english or simply just ignore it. in any case, you're hurting my head. hf in heaven.
you mean those verses cause you are not clear in your post?
"and allah has made the earth for you as a carpet (spread out)"
"we created the heavens and the earth and all between them in six days, nor did any sense of weariness touch us"
whats the error? please dont run away hahahahaha
Originally posted by FuErZzzZa^Originally posted by 'vaMpPpPppexcuse me what are the errors in the book? because Allah is perfect :)
now the verse is very clear and now you want in what directions the universe is expanding? hahahaha . guess what if Allah told us about your questions you will believe on Him ?
i give you 2 more scientific verses about human body:
“NO INDEED! IF HE DOES NOT STOP, WE WILL SEIZE HIM BY THE FOREHEAD, HIS LYING, SINFUL FOREHEAD.”[96:15-16]
the part of our brain wich make lies is the forehead (in front of our head) look how Allah describes it.
“WE SHALL SEND THOSE WHO REJECT OUR REVELATIONS TO THE (HELL) FIRE. WHEN THEIR SKINS HAVE BEEN BURNED AWAY, WE SHALL REPLACE THEM WITH NEW ONES SO THAT THEY MAY CONTINUE TO FEEL THE PAIN: GOD IS ALMIGHTY, ALL-WISE.”[4:56]
Our feeling receptors are in our skins thats why Allah said we replace their skins so they can feel pain.
excuse me, but did you even read my reply? i clearly mentioned the errors in the book. you also seem to completely ignore chunks of my two previous replies. either that or you just lack basic understanding of english or simply just ignore it. in any case, you're hurting my head. hf in heaven.
you mean those verses cause you are not clear in your post?
"and allah has made the earth for you as a carpet (spread out)"
"we created the heavens and the earth and all between them in six days, nor did any sense of weariness touch us"
whats the error? please dont run away hahahahaha
first is mentioning that the earth is flat, like a carpet
second is mentioning that the earth was created in six days?
if you can't spot the how scientifically incorrect those two are i simply cannot help you, bud.
i'm not running away, i simply choose not to argue because it is simply wasting my time as well as yours. plus the fact that you are ignoring a lot of my text - and you still haven't answered my original question to you regarding extraterrestrial life. so you see, it's a waste of time. i don't care about your book, about your religion, about your god. i just wanted to tell you how narrow-minded of a human being you are when you indirectly laugh at the possiblity of extraterrestrial life yet believe in a god.
Originally posted by 'vaMpPpPppOriginally posted by FuErZzzZa^Originally posted by 'vaMpPpPppexcuse me what are the errors in the book? because Allah is perfect :)
now the verse is very clear and now you want in what directions the universe is expanding? hahahaha . guess what if Allah told us about your questions you will believe on Him ?
i give you 2 more scientific verses about human body:
“NO INDEED! IF HE DOES NOT STOP, WE WILL SEIZE HIM BY THE FOREHEAD, HIS LYING, SINFUL FOREHEAD.”[96:15-16]
the part of our brain wich make lies is the forehead (in front of our head) look how Allah describes it.
“WE SHALL SEND THOSE WHO REJECT OUR REVELATIONS TO THE (HELL) FIRE. WHEN THEIR SKINS HAVE BEEN BURNED AWAY, WE SHALL REPLACE THEM WITH NEW ONES SO THAT THEY MAY CONTINUE TO FEEL THE PAIN: GOD IS ALMIGHTY, ALL-WISE.”[4:56]
Our feeling receptors are in our skins thats why Allah said we replace their skins so they can feel pain.
excuse me, but did you even read my reply? i clearly mentioned the errors in the book. you also seem to completely ignore chunks of my two previous replies. either that or you just lack basic understanding of english or simply just ignore it. in any case, you're hurting my head. hf in heaven.
you mean those verses cause you are not clear in your post?
"and allah has made the earth for you as a carpet (spread out)"
"we created the heavens and the earth and all between them in six days, nor did any sense of weariness touch us"
whats the error? please dont run away hahahahaha
first is mentioning that the earth is flat, like a carpet
second is mentioning that the earth was created in six days?
if you can't spot the how scientifically incorrect those two are i simply cannot help you, bud.
i'm not running away, i simply choose not to argue because it is simply wasting my time as well as yours. plus the fact that you are ignoring a lot of my text - and you still haven't answered my original question to you regarding extraterrestrial life. so you see, it's a waste of time. i don't care about your book, about your religion, about your god. i just wanted to tell you how narrow-minded of a human being you are when you indirectly laugh at the possiblity of extraterrestrial life yet believe in a god.
OMG how its metioning the earth is flat ?
i checked this verse on arabic and it means that he made on earth a good rest to live on it. it doesnt have anything with phisical meaning. this is the most reliable translation in english:"He Who has made the earth for you a cradle. and has made path-ways, for you therein, that you may follow the right way"
And for the period of 6 days its for the creation of earth and heavens. whats the problem here
Allah mentioned that "nor did any sense of weariness touch us" because disbelievers before said that he got tired and rested one day.
Also Allah has corected many other wrong beliefs. Like that Jesus is his son. So in quran you find chapters named "Jesus" , "Marry" where he tells the right story and call the christians to come to the right path.
i can tell you there are only three types of creation (regardless the animals):
- We (human beings) : created from soil of earth.
- The angels (created from light) : we cant see them, they are in the other dimensions (you talked about earlier) and they move in light speed.
- the Gin (created from fire) : we cant see them but they do and they move in light speed too
example: the devil aka satan (or whatever u call him in english) he is a disbeliever from the Gin kind.
PS: Im realy reading all what u wrote but try to be clear.
Fuerza, i will tell you the fact.
There is no god and you are deluded, doesn't matter what you say and what you believe, it won't make the reality different. And this is fact, and you are wrong, and other religious people are deluded too, and thats not because I think so, thats because I know and many smart people do know that also. Zero evidence means zero reasons to believe in god. Besides, the origins and evolution of universe and life have been explained already, and these theories are wonderful. It explains everything that exists without god, it doesn't contradict logic, more complicated forms come after simpler. Existence of god contradicts logic, because complicated things (god) cannot exist without previous simpler forms (evolution of god)
Religions make people obey, and thats what you do, you serve on purpose of mass deceit. You deny rationality and truth, you prefer to defend and justify something that you took for granted without filtering it via critical analysis. You don't have your own thoughts, what you are doing is constantly quoting the book written by other humans like you. You just believe its not, but once again, you are wrong. Because you don't know.
Might be that you are just afraid, you was born in this culture with savage religion and you try to survive. Denying gives you a fatal punishment. Thats instincts and thats normal. Then you dont have the problem, just the system does. However, it is not same for other religions, where people are free to leave faith when they realise things. So thats why some religious people are deluded, and some muslims in particular are just afraid.
Truth is what matters.
Sanskrit is 3200 Years old and all other Religions just build up on it, they were exploring the human counsciousness already that long ago and are still superior to todays psychology see vedanta. the so called scientific facts in your book are just partly stolen from them the other part is simply very vague and not neccessarily a scientific fact at all more like nostradamus or something of that caliber good for manipulation nontheless.
Other forms of life different from ours based on dna, may either exist or may not. Chances of life originating might be critically small or it might be not so critical, leading scientists don't know which option is correct yet. So we might be the only civilization in universe, or there might be more. Evolution of life to self-aware creatures like humans reduces the chances significantly for the existence of extraterrestrial intelligent life like ours. However, we know that it is possible because we exist and thats an obvious fact.
Originally posted by BerkutOther forms of life different from ours based on dna, may either exist or may not. Chances of life originating might be critically small or it might be not so critical, leading scientists don't know which option is correct yet. So we might be the only civilization in universe, or there might be more. Evolution of life to self-aware creatures like humans reduces the chances significantly for the existence of extraterrestrial intelligent life like ours. However, we know that it is possible because we exist and thats an obvious fact.
it is indeed true that the probability of intelligent beings existing other places in the universe is very small, considering how lucky that we had to be to evolve into what we are today. however, i do think that microscopial life is very possible and i also think that the universe is teeming with such life. but indeed, no one can be certain of anything until we have solid evidence to claim either theory.
i simply just wanted to remind the religious dude about how silly it is to indirectly laugh at the fact that some people, and a lot of bright scientists also, think that extraterrestrial exists elsewhere in the universe when he himself believes in a god.
but i honestly cant be arsed having this discussion with such a person, it's really a waste of my time.
Originally posted by LaucherJungethe so called scientific facts in your book are just partly stolen from them the other part is simply very vague and not neccessarily a scientific fact at all more like nostradamus or something of that caliber good for manipulation nontheless.
precisely. most of all 'scientific facts' in the quran (and other religious books for that matter) are simply just too vague and could be in interpreted in many different ways - people, well religious people, tend just to hear what they want to hear.
Simply the scientific facts in the quran are the proof of the existance of god who is the only truth existing everything else is not true (his creation).
Every scientific fact in quran has been proven to be right is that a coincidence? about the universe about the earth about the sun and more. And still there are more to be proven in the future when technologie advance more.
You have no proof about non existance of god and youre still forgetting the basic rule of physic "that everything has come from nothing" so there must be a creator of that substance before the big bang.
You have to understand what is god (Allah) he is out of time or place thats why you cant ask where he came from.
Time is automatically exists after the existing of place. For example now if the earth stop rotating, there will not be tomorrow.
Now what is eternal life after death? Allah will take us out of this universe and its system and we will be out of time like him, we will live the past, the present and the future at the same moment.
If you want to have an idea about death (being out of time) just ask yourself where you were before you have been born in this earth did do you feel anything the last thousands years? we were dead and again we will come back to it. So when you die in this life you will find yourself directly in " the day of judgment" . You will feel like you stayed 1 day or less on earth.
this life is nothing comparing to eternal life (the true existing without time).
"How can you disbelieve in Allah? When you were dead, so he gave you life, and then he will cause you to die, then restore you to life, and then to Him you shall be made to return" (2:28)
Now if you believe or not its for you to choose. But please dont say bullshit about islam that you dont know.
Look what satan will say to disbelievers on the day of judgment:
"And when the matter is decided, Satan will say: ' Allah promised you a promise of truth, but i promised you and failed you. And i have no power over you except that i called you and you obeyed me. So blame me not, but blame your own selves. I cannot succour you nor can you soccour me. I have already disclaimed your associating me with Allah. For the wrongdoers there shall surely a grievous punishment.' " (14:22)
Funny how you just ignore everything that contradicts your opinion and keep throwing logicless arguments.
As i stated above many of those "scientific facts" have been stolen and others are simply vague so that they could fit any model of reality if interpreted as you like it to be interpreted.
If there was a creator there was not nothing and also the creator had to come from somewhere next contradiction.
Now even if anything of what you are saying is true it still does not come from your quran sanskrit is still older and had similar ideas which were simply stolen by muslims just that god is not a personal god "it" is pure counsciousness.
Originally posted by LaucherJungeFunny how you just ignore everything that contradicts your opinion and keep throwing logicless arguments.
As i stated above many of those "scientific facts" have been stolen and others are simply vague so that they could fit any model of reality if interpreted as you like it to be interpreted.
If there was a creator there was not nothing and also the creator had to come from somewhere next contradiction.
Now even if anything of what you are saying is true it still does not come from your quran sanskrit is still older and had similar ideas which were simply stolen by muslims just that god is not a personal god "it" is pure counsciousness.
your such a dump! the scientif facts were stolen? WTF? these are in the book 1400 years ago
keep saying random things without any proofs : about god where he came from read his concept in quran(chapter 112).
and everything im saying is from the quran and i make sure that i post the verses from it for evidence (i bet u did never read a verse there in your life)
"And the case of those, who disbelieve is like the case of one who shouts to that wich hears nothing but a call and a cry. They are deaf, dumb, and blind so they do not understand" (2:171)
NOBODY TILL THIS MOMENT HAVE GIVING ME EVIDENCE ABOUT WHAT UR SAYING!!! ITS ALL ABOUT UR THINKING AND IMAGINATIONS. AND IM THE ONLY ONE WHOS GIVING CLEAR EVIDENCES AND SIGNS FROM THE QURAN. EVEN ITS AMAZING THAT SOME OF YOU STILL BELIEVE IN DARWIN PROPOSITION WAKE-UP ITS 2017 AND WE HAVE DISCOVERED DNA!!!
Peace have fun !
Please any admin can block me from this thread.
Originally posted by FuErZzzZa^Originally posted by LaucherJungeFunny how you just ignore everything that contradicts your opinion and keep throwing logicless arguments.
As i stated above many of those "scientific facts" have been stolen and others are simply vague so that they could fit any model of reality if interpreted as you like it to be interpreted.
If there was a creator there was not nothing and also the creator had to come from somewhere next contradiction.
Now even if anything of what you are saying is true it still does not come from your quran sanskrit is still older and had similar ideas which were simply stolen by muslims just that god is not a personal god "it" is pure counsciousness.
your such a dump! the scientif facts were stolen? WTF? these are in the book 1400 years ago
keep saying random things without any proofs : about god where he came from read his concept in quran(chapter 112).
and everything im saying is from the quran and i make sure that i post the verses from it for evidence (i bet u did never read a verse there in your life)
"And the case of those, who disbelieve is like the case of one who shouts to that wich hears nothing but a call and a cry. They are deaf, dumb, and blind so they do not understand" (2:171)
NOBODY TILL THIS MOMENT HAVE GIVING ME EVIDENCE ABOUT WHAT UR SAYING!!! ITS ALL ABOUT UR THINKING AND IMAGINATIONS. AND IM THE ONLY ONE WHOS GIVING CLEAR EVIDENCES AND SIGNS FROM THE QURAN. EVEN ITS AMAZING THAT SOME OF YOU STILL BELIEVE IN DARWIN PROPOSITION WAKE-UP ITS 2017 AND WE HAVE DISCOVERED DNA!!!
Peace have fun !
Please any admin can block me from this thread.
you are extremely fucking deluded, holy fuckballs.
AND IM THE ONLY ONE WHOS GIVING CLEAR EVIDENCES
are you actually serious right now? what evidence do you have for the existence of god? a random fucking book? yeah thats some real clear and concrete evidence right there. well done.
get lost.
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