Cheating: VNS
Started by FAME
22/07/2014 19:44
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zythH^ 
22/07/2014 21:03
22/07/2014 21:03Originally posted by zythH^I didn't understand it pretty well, can you explain it like I was a dumb man? :/
Not hating, just want to know more! I found this a pretty interesting thread
leggie22/07/2014 21:08
Originally posted by fameOriginally posted by leggiehokay so, i like you're layout here it's good... however theres a few problems, first of all don't ever compare 2 different jumpers no matter how alike you think the style is... shit can differ them so much from setup to which hand they use to even how you're sat.
if you take a look at his older demos and newer demos when he used different mice you'll see a difference since that happens with different mice.... his jump commands arn't all the different and are relatively normal, as for the 1 jump command thats odd but can be caused by a number of different bugs which since you clearly like checking demos you should know this (for example pizza has quite a few bugs in his demos because he likes to use spacebar and scroll to jump and sometimes he gets 1 scroll commands + pink commands) also if they were the cheated jumps it would they would be the jumps that are perfect however if you look at those jumps with the 1 scroll most of them are way over 300 pre,
i applaud your time and effort but you looked at this 1 wrong, take a look at another swedish jumper that has been doing some recs recently.... i already proved that guy cheats ;) (p.s i was asked not to say anything about that 1 but some people are taking the cookie on banning him)
I did not compare two different peoples, I just show how looks normal demos in most of cases.
About mices you are right, bhops can looks different depending on the which mouse you using.
But he have different bhop styles IN ONE DEMO which is statistically impossible. He need to change every 10 sec mices to have such bhops. About 1 frame and 300 pre - some of hacks allows you to fail bhops.
If you guys can't see shit in this two different bhops style just looks at this 1 frame bhops. You won't see anything similar in demos of other players and ffs, I have hacks that he using and bhops that I can make with them looks similar to VNS' bhops.
i meant how you were showing people what shnz demos are like... that was pointless and will only throw people off when they don't know what they're looking at, bhop commands changing through a demo is normal, the map does that since the bhops will be further than others (the further it is the more likely you are to do more scrolls) height difference, sharp turns or just turns in general when you move your mouse alot... and yes some hacks make fails but the 1 frame jumps are mostly 300+, they would most likely be all the same and as i said refer to other demos with the same thing.
you're just looking at this wrong, whenever you see something you think is suspicious always try find a way to prove it's legit... if you cant then it's most likely cheated.
toytoy22/07/2014 21:12
didn't know u were a demochecker, fame.
imo u're not targetin the right swedish
g-Lp
22/07/2014 21:13
22/07/2014 21:13Originally posted by leggieyou're just looking at this wrong, whenever you see something you think is suspicious always try find a way to prove it's legit... if you cant then it's most likely cheated.
that's why you banned me from cosy for nothing modafucka (I still like you)
leggie22/07/2014 21:25
Originally posted by g-LpOriginally posted by leggieyou're just looking at this wrong, whenever you see something you think is suspicious always try find a way to prove it's legit... if you cant then it's most likely cheated.
that's why you banned me from cosy for nothing modafucka (I still like you)
i love you too but i still didn't have anything to do with you and cosy... it's cosy man idgaf about that LOL
ok let's talk about some more serious issue's at hand here, first of all there are already cheated demos and more worryingly demos that have broken very simple and obvious rules on the xj record list, and i mean shit that can be seen by a friggin 3 year old hobbit.
now, where are the demo admins? there's 2 of them... they cant be here and check demos properly between them? i did that shit on my own for a year or so and i was doing alot more demos and dealing with alot more hassle (lynn) so... i know it isnt this hard so that tells me ndR is busy (as he always is) and probably only offered a helping hand which is nice of him... subwayz... idk, i've been told he only uses 1 silly little tool to look for 1 specific thing and thats all he does... cos that helps.. demos arn't even been watched it seems and that allows silly demos to get through, take for instance nikitas demo on pharorun, a third steam id under different names... breaks the rules and shouldn't have been given to him and he cant prove its his demo (even though i know it is his demo cos i busted him for the fake account a while back) but still breaks rules either way.
so we need demo admins right... ok SO pu9maker the legend himself messaged me a while back really interested in demochecking... so i gave him a few tips and a bit of advice with some minor tools and he's starting to learn things so at some point he will become a demoadmin i guess NOW here lies another 2 problems, as i stated before that nikita demo should simply be removed but cyclopp wont do that because he wants to investigate nikita and doesn't wanna spook him (cos that makes friggin sense) so he's letting an illegal demo stand for no reason really... and as i've said i also provided proof about somebody else cheating which they basically arn't doing anything about because eDark isn't around to check them and see what i already proved so they wont be removed and that guy wont be banned... and EVEN WORSE i'll just c/p a bit of a chat log for you guys.
20:06 - PU9maker: no perms.. btw i still dont have demo admin rights..So i cant make rls's i cant dl demos to check them.. nothings.. all im doing is waiting.. getting tired pf it.. how hard is it to gimme the perms ffs
20:08 - leggie: it isn't
20:08 - leggie: and even so all you need to do is ask somebody else to send you them
20:10 - PU9maker: ndR is gone till August, subwayz too.. psyxopat is online for 10 mins a week..ive noone to ask
20:10 - leggie: lmao
20:10 - leggie: cos i didn't see that 1 coming..
so the 1 guy trying to really help them and they can't give him access? nobody is around to help? nobody has the balls to ban people? nobody has the balls to remove simple illegal demos?
and people wonder why i didn't wanna be around after faker stepped down..... this is the exact type of shit that i knew would happen.
and for all those concerned i'm not ranting at ndR or subwayz, it isn't their fault
i'm done PEACE OUT
Nikita22/07/2014 21:57
It's true about the pharaonrun it was recorded on another account and if it's against the rules, okay, delete it. It's np. And I'm glad you posted on this forum Leggie, I got kind of scared there for a second when someone found "cheats" in vns demos :d Glad you made it clear that it was a misunderstanding :)
Keo 
22/07/2014 21:59
22/07/2014 21:59*leggie drops the mike and walks off the stage gangsta style*
zza 22/07/2014 22:06
22/07/2014 22:06nikita confirmed worst thing to happen since lynn
Nikita22/07/2014 22:08
Originally posted by pizza^nikita confirmed worst thing to happen since lynn
Thanks @_@
lagster 22/07/2014 22:16
22/07/2014 22:16I like you fame
Fantasm22/07/2014 22:31
play
fucking
mate
kQbmig22/07/2014 23:22
22/07/2014 23:22Damn those are some weird jump lines... just for fun, could you check his jump lines @ the tunnel on venice? Anyway if his demos are legit he must be using a shitty mouse with an unstable scroll.
knoxville22/07/2014 23:55
im only here for atl comments. :)
goatse23/07/2014 00:23
man... how can you say "just remove it. its np." cant you just follow the rules
tIdAL_WaVE-iKz-23/07/2014 00:37
dis gon be good...
daza 23/07/2014 00:46
23/07/2014 00:46His name is even Technohax on LoL ! Arrest him !
Nikita23/07/2014 00:53
Originally posted by silenxeman... how can you say "just remove it. its np." cant you just follow the rules
There's nothing wrong with the demo except that it's on another account and when I got unbanned I didn't know I wasn't allowed to upload it just because it was recorded on the other account.
goatse23/07/2014 01:00
yes i know the demo is fine its even amazing. just be careful. peace
~krater~23/07/2014 01:45
Can somebody reply me to this question which is kinda logical,
Why the fuck people need to have that weird complex in their brains, that they must be the best one by illegal way, cant you just put some effort in your gaming and try to play legit? What the fuck is so interesting in cheating for fuck sake dudes?
Spider1 
23/07/2014 12:54
23/07/2014 12:54krater,is about the feeling->"i can fool everyone,they cant catch me what so ever they do,im above all " :D is prety interesting that feel in some situation even in real life not just games :P
And to be a bit OT:looks ok VNS from his demos,im not a demochecker so i know nothing about it:P BTW give rights to PU9 already :)
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