Longjump: Questions and answers

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zEz10/04/2011 23:06(edited 10/04/2011 23:09)

hey, i'm new to the community and I decided to become a kz player 2 weeks ago.
Since then i've been trying to improve in hns/kz/lj, and I did get pretty good already. At the moment there are a lot questions in my mind and i'd just like to ask them here, i'm also going to become active at this forum. What i'm actually looking for is someone who can teach me how to become a good kz player.

First i'll list my hardware etc and my settings, there might be things which should be changed, just wondering.

Mouse: atm Intelli 3.0@500hz, I got a G5 laying here, but somehow I lj better with my intelli, I guess since i'm used to it, but if it will improve gameplay(especially stats) i'll change to G5.
windows 6/11, 450 DPI(I guess), sensitivity ingame 2.1, I wonder if this is too low. Also steelseries Qck+ mousepad.
Constant 100fps, whatever map u pick.
Resolution ingame: 1024x768, openGL, '22 widescreen 75hz, I wonder if I'll get better stats if I LJ with 1680x1050, since someone told me it does and whenever I go to 800x600 my stats get horrible.

Well I went in some lj server for 5mins and Longjumped alot stats in 5mins, just copied and pasted whole console in a document.
I normally used to LJ 100aa and I lj'ed stats in 100aa server.
At my own server I lj'ed 10aa but I doesn't seem to give me the stats of each strafe, someone might wanna explain how to turn this option on or get this option, I only got the pack of XtremeJumps installed@my server.

The document: http://rapidshare.com/files/456820259/strafes.doc

Well I hope there is someone who is willing to help me, and give me some usefull tips and tell me how to really perfection my sync and strafes. I prefer someone who really knows what he's talking about, i've talked to alot people and each one has given me a different advice. One said make ur strafes smaller, other one said bigger. One said 6 strafes, other one said 7 strafes, another one said get atleast 8 strafes.
I'm used to lj'ing best with 7 strafes atm, idk My hand was immediately used to it and it went all automatically.

Well that's it, I kinda wrote alot but yeah just wanted to make everything clear, hope someone can seriously help me to get as good as the top kz jumpers, you can also contact me trough PM if you're willing to help me/got questions, i'll give msn/steam/w.e.


Sincerely zEz





StenGah11/04/2011 21:27(edited 11/04/2011 21:28)

I could jump 250+ (and block, record 253, yay!) stats frequently before and then I stopped LJ'ing.
And it was 4 months ago I stopped, decided to start again now.
I can jump 250+ stats (not block) from time to time atm but I sometimes get 228 - 232 ljstats, it says that I doesn't duck but actually I do, it's really annoying.
Why is that?

First time I ask for help about LJ..

nunqmuo13/04/2011 08:11(edited 13/04/2011 08:12)

h1 ppl. i have 1 question. Usually, i jump 245-249 units LJ with 3 strafes(constantly). And today can`t jump at all. I find out that my 2-nd and 3-rd strafes = 0. For example :
LJ Distance: 234.658935 Maxspeed: 301.218658 (17.434) Prestrafe: 274.784149 Strafes: 3 Sync: 89
1 17.434 0.000 36.4 87
2 0.000 13.216 18.9 85
3 0.000 2.378 44.5 93
Fail: Block -- 245! Jumpoff -- 2.871.
I just dunno what reason. I jump constantly 245-249 for 2-3 weeks and everything fine. But today...
I will be very grateful for your helpÑŽ

akse13/04/2011 10:26

Give demo of your jumps

StenGah13/04/2011 16:50

Originally posted by nunqmuo
h1 ppl. i have 1 question. Usually, i jump 245-249 units LJ with 3 strafes(constantly). And today can`t jump at all. I find out that my 2-nd and 3-rd strafes = 0. For example :
LJ Distance: 234.658935 Maxspeed: 301.218658 (17.434) Prestrafe: 274.784149 Strafes: 3 Sync: 89
1 17.434 0.000 36.4 87
2 0.000 13.216 18.9 85
3 0.000 2.378 44.5 93
Fail: Block -- 245! Jumpoff -- 2.871.
I just dunno what reason. I jump constantly 245-249 for 2-3 weeks and everything fine. But today...
I will be very grateful for your helpÑŽ

I think you're just having an off day, everybody has. :P

StenGah13/04/2011 16:51

Originally posted by nunqmuo
h1 ppl. i have 1 question. Usually, i jump 245-249 units LJ with 3 strafes(constantly). And today can`t jump at all. I find out that my 2-nd and 3-rd strafes = 0. For example :
LJ Distance: 234.658935 Maxspeed: 301.218658 (17.434) Prestrafe: 274.784149 Strafes: 3 Sync: 89
1 17.434 0.000 36.4 87
2 0.000 13.216 18.9 85
3 0.000 2.378 44.5 93
Fail: Block -- 245! Jumpoff -- 2.871.
I just dunno what reason. I jump constantly 245-249 for 2-3 weeks and everything fine. But today...
I will be very grateful for your helpÑŽ

I think you're just having an off day, everybody has. :P
Just take a break for a couple of hours or one day and you will be able to jump longer again!

nunqmuo13/04/2011 18:19

Thx god. I again jump normally=) Just very bad morning-_-. Thx for some anwsers=)

nunqmuo13/04/2011 19:05

oooo no. It`s happening again :( . 2-nd and 3-rd strfs = 0. Why they equal 0? sync is fine. pre is fine. Watch my sucks demo and tell me Why happen this shit. :( http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VPQSZQ2B

nunqmuo13/04/2011 19:49

well, i have some progress... watch 1 mo demo. What i do wrong, on what I should pay attention? just watch at jumps with 3 strafes ( sometimes i try do 4-5). Here the demo http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LPW2N6B0 (p.s. there are some pause after first 245 units, i just watch stats in console, just wait a little=) )
I will be very grateful for your help

nunqmuo14/04/2011 05:30

And 1 mo question. Why sometimes some strafes equal 0? and lost equal, for example 15-20? But sync is fine. May be bad trajectory? Please guys, watch those demos, and say something=)

nunqmuo14/04/2011 11:41

Up

nunqmuo15/04/2011 15:04

Sad:( Anybody... Say something...

propanelj record holder16/04/2011 13:54

thats some epic posting you did ther ;P

nunqmuo16/04/2011 14:26

Yeee, i know. But... can u watch my demo, and say , if i have some misatkes or something else. I`ll be very grateful for ur help.

nunqmuo17/04/2011 01:15

Ok... Thx...

StenGah17/04/2011 18:37

Originally posted by StenGah
I could jump 250+ (and block, record 253, yay!) stats frequently before and then I stopped LJ'ing.
And it was 4 months ago I stopped, decided to start again now.
I can jump 250+ stats (not block) from time to time atm but I sometimes get 228 - 232 ljstats, it says that I doesn't duck but actually I do, it's really annoying.
Why is that?

First time I ask for help about LJ..

Can someone plz help me? =/

nunqmuo18/04/2011 04:11

There is no help...

CowOnCrack18/04/2011 05:34

that's right, some times you have to solve your own problems

CowOnCrack18/04/2011 05:40(edited 18/04/2011 05:42)

Originally posted by zEz
windows 6/11, 450 DPI(I guess), sensitivity ingame 2.1, I wonder if this is too low. Also steelseries Qck+ mousepad.


Not helpful to tell anyone this. Nobody knows how fast/slow this is.


I normally used to LJ 100aa and I lj'ed stats in 100aa server.



All LJ records are done with 10aa. Do not do 100aa.


I doesn't seem to give me the stats of each strafe, someone might wanna explain how to turn this option on or get this option, I only got the pack of XtremeJumps installed@my server.



XJ listen server pack stats cannot show strafe stats, they are limited. Download uq_jumpstats by Bjormi here:

http://xtreme-jumps.eu/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?223567

This plugin has full stats for everything.


i've talked to alot people and each one has given me a different advice. One said make ur strafes smaller, other one said bigger. One said 6 strafes, other one said 7 strafes, another one said get atleast 8 strafes.



More strafes is always better. If you can do 10 strafes and get more than 5 on all of them, go for it. Of course you probably can't, because the best LJ'ers in the world can barely fit in a tiny 8th strafe.

Do as many strafes as you can do, then try to strafe faster and faster adding one more at a time. You should be getting 7-10 gain on the first 4/5 and 2-6 or so on the rest. Doing 10 strafes with 2 gain on each is useless: your MS needs to be 330 or higher for very far jumps.

You will find that doing 5/6 strafes properly will take you a long time from beginner. Doing 6 then 7 will take even longer, and 8? See you in a few years.





CowOnCrack18/04/2011 05:46

Originally posted by nunqmuo
h1 ppl. i have 1 question. Usually, i jump 245-249 units LJ with 3 strafes(constantly). And today can`t jump at all. I find out that my 2-nd and 3-rd strafes = 0. For example :
LJ Distance: 234.658935 Maxspeed: 301.218658 (17.434) Prestrafe: 274.784149 Strafes: 3 Sync: 89
1 17.434 0.000 36.4 87
2 0.000 13.216 18.9 85
3 0.000 2.378 44.5 93
Fail: Block -- 245! Jumpoff -- 2.871.
I just dunno what reason. I jump constantly 245-249 for 2-3 weeks and everything fine. But today...
I will be very grateful for your helpÑŽ


There is only one answer - you are jumping incorrectly. Try doing just one strafe for awhile (prestrafe) and then add one. After you pre-strafe, keep turning in the direction you prestrafed after jumping - this is your first strafe. When doing do two strafes, after doing the first strafe, turn in the opposite direction pressing the opposite strafe key. Just do two strafes until you get 10+ gain on both.

Then add three.

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