Cheating: VNS

Originally posted by fame

Originally posted by VNS

i am pretty sure leggie ended this already and there is one positive side effect of these threads and that is that the activity on xj gets to a whole new level.

Nothing is ended, we all know that there is no any bug in your demos and they are simply cheated with non-stable bhop hack. Show me at least one demo with such bug (1 +jump;-jump command while your previous and next jumps with 4-5) from trusted (not Swedish) player and only then I will shut up.

i've said before but since u clearly can't get it through your head THEY ARE RANDOM and if anything they just fucking destroy my runs and not help them in any way.

atl flames mmhhh so tasty

I just want to say thanks to juice ._.

Originally posted by fN

Originally posted by leggie

so, i just made a very random demo, 1 attempt, 20 seconds long or so just to show you a few things as why you shouldn't make assumptions.

So you went on a server to record a demo showing how to intentionally scroll a different amount of times when bhopping, and trying to get a frame perfect bhop with only one jump input?

Nice, have a cookie. I guess you're unique in that way. Nobody could possibly do that.

What fame is pointing out that vns demos have several similarities with a cheat. Which is why it raised his suspicion.

atl is right about the demos , they are rly old too , anyway , fame , i appreciate your work but i think you are not getting anywhere with this , lynn had best hacks and still he ended up banned , vns sent his first wr 3-4 years ago , and on some of his "sick" wrs he even streamed and get lot of people to spec , why would someone stream a wr attempt if he plays with hack ... im just saying my opinion , but like people said below , you should try to get a solid evidence for nikita's demos , lot of people would thank you :)

atL, how many time do you spend creating new accounts just to be an asshole? haha

I suspect him for being the infamous heL^_x behind a proxy again. Both have 3 letter nicknames

This is not only hilarious, it's laughable as well. Nice post, nice effort, but at this point of time you gave me nothing. Threads like this get you off? Don't they?
You presented a lot of "proof" where you used a cheat to replicate the jumping ability of a human. But the cheat is in-fact supposed to mimic a human player, so what's ur point here?
The main problem here is that; you are stuck in a mindset where you are convinced that he cheats, even though your "proof" isn't sustainable on any level, you imagine your posts give you more meat on your bone, but in reality the community is nagging away on you, piece by piece.

Innocent until proven guilty? Instead of spending your time on finding one way to put up this 'excuse my words'; shit. Maybe you should figure out how to "prove" that he cheats on another level, instead of giving us something that initially from your perspective makes us "doubt his innocence". But the lack of proof gives me nothing, it doesn't get me off, does it get you off? It's not only convenient that your last 'big thread' was about Kayne cheating, where you got shut down not only in the thread but on a public XJ announcement as well(?)
Your level of providing proof here is as convenient for me as looking at your old posts on this site. Which usually consists of you saying 2-3 words or possibly one sentence, posts that usually include 'bug' 'lickasser' 'bugged' 'cheat' or random Long-jump stuff.

Your proof is as confident to me as your two threads; kayne (which got shut down) and now VNS: the Ukraine flag has 2 colors - two threads. The level of consistency? A little better than the kayne thread, I mean picture wise and not saying 'he cheats' over and over again. Love this kind of 'proving' stuff, it's great.

As leggie posted earlier, it's a common bug with the g400 mouse, and speaking for myself, I do a lot of ducks after hitting a bhop. It's how you hit two stand-ups in a row?

Overall: Shitty 'evidence', poor execution, and looking like a personal issue to put this amount of "work" into certain players. <- I'm one step ahead of you, you gonna question why I respond to this thread out of a ton? We'll it's been a while since I've seen this kind of determination for something as ridiculous as this. As of the part the VNS is Swedish, and I am Swedish; don't even bother. It's not up to him to prove his innocence because a random forum thread, it's up to you to make a convincing case that he cheats. Convenient enough VNS isn't on my friends-list, neither is he per say a 'friend' of mine, would I shit on him? If it was necessary, would I protect him if was necessary? Potentially. And your 'proof' not only makes people less interested in recording, it also makes people have the doubt of "potential" cheaters, so in more aspects than one are you fucking not only the community, but yourself as well. Since you are a part of it.

Thanks for the coffee, have a nice one.

Moxx, before writing such wall, try at least to understand what fame writed.

Edit : "wrote", thanks moxx ;)