Cheating: VNS

Started by FAME
22/07/2014 19:44
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zythH^ moviemaker24/07/2014 02:24

Originally posted by jingles
lol please dont bring attention to the topic of english/grammar in an international community especially when you yourself made mistakes in your 2nd post, sorry moxx

im intrigued by this g400 bug theory


I dont want to look like a dick but from what I've learnt, americans are like Brazilians speaking Portuguese and trust me, some Brazilians can't speak their own language, portuguese :) But, let's stop the grammar drama and let's wait for democheckers to act and do something, I guess this is going to far.

FAME24/07/2014 02:36(edited 24/07/2014 02:54)

Originally posted by VNS
lol dude you're incredibly sad. first of all that bug EXISTS on the g400 enough said there are so many people getting that with the g400 like for example leggie. just because you got another g400 batch or whatever that doesnt make it doesn't mean that other guys dont get it.

and i already explained why i dont get random jumps in air but since your more stupid than anyone i know of so far lets write it once again for you. The thing that happens to me is the scrolls is fucking up in a way that my scroll aint scrolling at some points when i actually am scrolling physically which leads to me getting less scrolls and that mostly fucks up my runs but sometimes it just doesn't and i can continue with my run.

Why you don't have such "bug" in start of your bhop or non-bhop climbing? Why it's always happens in the middle of your bhopping? Why there is only 1-2 frames on the ground with this "bug" and no 3 or more? If your mouse doesn't not scrolling sometimes how you can comment this?

Image

At first 4-6 +jumps per bhop and then only 2-3 +jumps nine(!) times in a row while statistically you have such jumps once per 6 demos. Similar place to the first one so you don't need to change bhop style. But problem is not with this 2-3 frames jumps, they are clean comparing to that 4-6 frames, because he was in the tunnel and it's too hard to make a lot of mouse scrolls in such tiny place especially with such small gaps between them (~5msec), so it's easier to do only few scrolls because by doing that you have more time to get your finger at start of scroll because you need to do it quite fast. Also you can even look on his frames on the ground - at first he have all jumps with 1-2 FOTG and then two frames with 3 FOTG and even once with 4.

Originally posted by VNS
and just to mention you do notice that omg0 doing those runs in 2008, do you really think they haven't improved demo checking wise since then?

The problem is that they banned him without real proofs. They learned how to detect hack that he used only in start of 2009.

I honestly tired by repeating same shit everytime.

Cobrex mapper Tournament #224/07/2014 02:46

Even though, can this be considered enough evidence?

kz`Moxx mapper24/07/2014 02:49

Originally posted by jingles
lol please dont bring attention to the topic of english/grammar in an international community especially when you yourself made mistakes in your 2nd post, sorry moxx


Well jingles, if you would pay attention you would realize that the spelling was not the issue, and I tried to steer g-Lp away from pulling it that direction. However if he or you want to make it about spelling.. He tried to force it to a direction where he said 'I didn't understand how it works', and I made a re-joke about that; what to understand, thought that was pretty obvious.

kQbmigrecord holder24/07/2014 02:52

re-joke hahaha good one

kaynerecord holder24/07/2014 04:47

Originally posted by fame
Third.
Some hacks for unknown reason sometimes sends 1 +duck command after bhop, it's also can be indicator of bhop hack.

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/bAu4FHQ.png[/IMG]
(prochallenge_bhop_kayne_0144.64)

allow me to lol at you, are you now trying to say that i also bhop hack?
fyi thats the g400s which everyone who specced me/talked to me knows that i hated because of the scroll, when i scrolled up (+jump) it automatically scrolled back down randomly. it's cool tho, you made me feel better than i thought i was :)

buh24/07/2014 04:54

Well done fame, nice research.

kayne hasn't been banned yet? meh

rawerecord holder Tournament #124/07/2014 05:45

If you all knew about the bad scroll of the G400s, why do you even bought that?

lagster mapper24/07/2014 07:15

VNS is almost as legit as FoF

#standard #xtremejumps #lynn #solegit

BacoN24/07/2014 07:40

Moxx correcting someone's English, god help us all.

kQbmigrecord holder24/07/2014 09:37(edited 24/07/2014 09:39)

Originally posted by VNS
lol dude you're incredibly sad. first of all that bug EXISTS on the g400 enough said there are so many people getting that with the g400 like for example leggie. just because you got another g400 batch or whatever that doesnt make it doesn't mean that other guys dont get it.

and i already explained why i dont get random jumps in air but since your more stupid than anyone i know of so far lets write it once again for you. The thing that happens to me is the scrolls is fucking up in a way that my scroll aint scrolling at some points when i actually am scrolling physically which leads to me getting less scrolls and that mostly fucks up my runs but sometimes it just doesn't and i can continue with my run.

and just to mention you do notice that omg0 doing those runs in 2008, do you really think they haven't improved demo checking wise since then?

you just took stupidity to a whole new level.


lol @ leggie being the only one you could point out, when there are so many people with this bug apparently.

sorry for bumping the thread so many times, but I just want some action lol.

leggie24/07/2014 11:00

Originally posted by kQbmig
Originally posted by leggie
so, i just made a very random demo, 1 attempt, 20 seconds long or so just to show you a few things as why you shouldn't make assumptions.


[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/p4arcdl.png[/IMG]

see how easy it is to make the ammount of scrolls differ?
see the random ducks i have after jumps? (g400 bug)


[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Qpp7l0j.png[/IMG]

1 scroll 1 frame bhop.


so i guess i cheat right


Wait, are you saying it's a g400 bug in general? Because VNS said it's a USB bug with HIS mouse.
Also, what fame is trying to say is that you'll be hard pressed as FUCK to get WR's (if it's even possible) with those jump lines, so whether you did those on purpose or not is pretty irrelevant in this case.



ok read my post again, i was saying the scroll ducks after the jumps were bugs.....





Originally posted by fame
Originally posted by VNS
lol dude you're incredibly sad. first of all that bug EXISTS on the g400 enough said there are so many people getting that with the g400 like for example leggie. just because you got another g400 batch or whatever that doesnt make it doesn't mean that other guys dont get it.

and i already explained why i dont get random jumps in air but since your more stupid than anyone i know of so far lets write it once again for you. The thing that happens to me is the scrolls is fucking up in a way that my scroll aint scrolling at some points when i actually am scrolling physically which leads to me getting less scrolls and that mostly fucks up my runs but sometimes it just doesn't and i can continue with my run.

Why you don't have such "bug" in start of your bhop or non-bhop climbing? Why it's always happens in the middle of your bhopping? Why there is only 1-2 frames on the ground with this "bug" and no 3 or more? If your mouse doesn't not scrolling sometimes how you can comment this?

Image

At first 4-6 +jumps per bhop and then only 2-3 +jumps nine(!) times in a row while statistically you have such jumps once per 6 demos. Similar place to the first one so you don't need to change bhop style. But problem is not with this 2-3 frames jumps, they are clean comparing to that 4-6 frames, because he was in the tunnel and it's too hard to make a lot of mouse scrolls in such tiny place especially with such small gaps between them (~5msec), so it's easier to do only few scrolls because by doing that you have more time to get your finger at start of scroll because you need to do it quite fast. Also you can even look on his frames on the ground - at first he have all jumps with 1-2 FOTG and then two frames with 3 FOTG and even once with 4.

Originally posted by VNS
and just to mention you do notice that omg0 doing those runs in 2008, do you really think they haven't improved demo checking wise since then?

The problem is that they banned him without real proofs. They learned how to detect hack that he used only in start of 2009.

I honestly tired by repeating same shit everytime.



ok this is an EXAMPLE people do not take me literal when i say this.


[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/MWHpvwf.png[/IMG]

here we have a demo.. doing some duck bhops and no duck bhops fairly close to each other... notice how the scrolls change dramatically? that shouldn't happen right... also note how every bhop is a 1 frame jump... also quite rare so this could very well be used as "evidence" by what you're saying fame.

wanna know the funny part? this is from cg_coldbhop_fame_0025.74.



also on the topic of slowmo... you've checked over 1000 demos right... then you should know how slowmo works and how almost all of the slowmo cheats work... so you should know what slowmo effects and how you detect it.

eightbO VIP24/07/2014 11:00

Originally posted by jingles
lol please dont bring attention to the topic of english/grammar in an international community

+1 so hard

stop commenting on other peoples grammatical mistakes. it makes you look weak and showcases you can't address some valid points about someone's opinion

leggie24/07/2014 11:27

actually fame just at a quick glance of your demo commands i found something you might find interesting, infact something everybody might find interesting...


[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/9DM4y28.png[/IMG]

you like pressing some other keys when jumping..... could be a random thing or a bug...ill let it go just this once


[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Axuxc82.png[/IMG]


oh you did it again.. its a little bit different this time i guess it really could just be a weird thing.. i guess i can just turn a blind eye to it


[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/QtEC1ZH.png[/IMG]

OH YOU DID IT AGAIN? man... people are really gunna think you're pressing and holding a key to jump...


[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/e463Z3q.png[/IMG]

man you managed to bhop here without even hitting the FLOOR... you must be jesus



infact out of 35 bhops you do in this demo, 8 of them have these commands... i'll let you take the floor and explain to all these fine people why these things and the things above are in your demo.














Juice24/07/2014 11:37

Rofl I put that +camin thing into my cheat so in case if the cheat gets leaked and somebody will try to submit a cheated demo it will be obvious to see :)
#somuchdramaonxj

leggie24/07/2014 11:40

Originally posted by Juice ._.
Rofl I put that +camin thing into my cheat so in case if the cheat gets leaked and somebody will try to submit a cheated demo it will be obvious to see :)
#somuchdramaonxj

damn juice you wouldn't be calling him a cheater would you?

PU9makerrecord holder24/07/2014 11:47

Hunter became prey

zythH^ moviemaker24/07/2014 11:52

if Juice wasn't being sarcastic looks like fame is in troubles

FAME24/07/2014 11:53

Originally posted by leggie
actually fame just at a quick glance of your demo commands i found something you might find interesting, infact something everybody might find interesting...


[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/9DM4y28.png[/IMG]

you like pressing some other keys when jumping..... could be a random thing or a bug...ill let it go just this once


[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Axuxc82.png[/IMG]


oh you did it again.. its a little bit different this time i guess it really could just be a weird thing.. i guess i can just turn a blind eye to it


[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/QtEC1ZH.png[/IMG]

OH YOU DID IT AGAIN? man... people are really gunna think you're pressing and holding a key to jump...


[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/e463Z3q.png[/IMG]

man you managed to bhop here without even hitting the FLOOR... you must be jesus



infact out of 35 bhops you do in this demo, 8 of them have these commands... i'll let you take the floor and explain to all these fine people why these things and the things above are in your demo.

I never said this demo is clean, just made it to see how XJ demo-admins doing their work, and you can notice - they doing it shitty. I failed with checking commands that the hack sends. Anyway fact is still fact - bhop hacks and slowmo still undetectable for XJ (yes, I also used slowmo in that demo).

Also this another version of that hack which is supposted to be private (yes, atL, I also have it) doesn't have such cmds so you can be sure that someone recording demos with it.

Nokkan24/07/2014 12:01

Some serious shit is going on here

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