Cheating: VNS
topic just got a bit more interesting imo.
24/07/2014 12:27I'm actually considering to choose coldbhop as the run of the week now.
24/07/2014 12:28Youre prolly the biggest hypocrite in the history of XJ. You would like to see ( im gonna say most likely, cuz there is always a chance ) clean players banned while you would happily recording more and more cheated demos ? If you have such a good knowledge about demochecking, why didnt you contact head admins or our demo admins ? tell them what they should focus on etc ? Or are you pissed you werent picked as a XJ demo admin ?
24/07/2014 12:36That's simply means that VNS cheats. fame probably waited for his demo to be accepted. And since that happenned, he told us all his theory about hack. Saying that his demo is cheated would have been his last proof probably.
I'm pretty sure he did that for XJ.
@g-Lp +1 you`r right. wakeup guys
Originally posted by g-LpThat's simply means that VNS cheats. fame probably waited for his demo to be accepted. And since that happenned, he told us all his theory about hack. Saying that his demo is cheated would have been his last proof probably.
I'm pretty sure he did that for XJ.
no... fame was putting stuff in that basically had nothing to do with VNS demos... adding fuel to the fire to make it seem like he knows exactly what he's talking about (which in a way he has an idea BUT he's looking at it wrong) the things that caught fame out for cheating arn't in VNS demos so you can't compare them
Originally posted by PU9makerYoure prolly the biggest hypocrite in the history of XJ. You would like to see ( im gonna say most likely, cuz there is always a chance ) clean players banned while you would happily recording more and more cheated demos ? If you have such a good knowledge about demochecking, why didnt you contact head admins or our demo admins ? tell them what they should focus on etc ? Or are you pissed you werent picked as a XJ demo admin ?
I can easily record more cheated demos without getting banned VNS but I simply don't need that. All what I want I got. Some people knew that my demo is cheated, because I knew that I probably will be busted so I didn't want to be a cheater in their eyes. I even wanted in near future replace this cheated demo with legal one, since I still able to do it without cheats, you probably remember that cg_coldbhop_FAME_0025.85, it was legal for sure.
Of course I'm not protecting myself and I'm ready to get banned but don't forget - thread about VNS, not me.
24/07/2014 12:59(edited 24/07/2014 13:01)I was really looking forward to see VNS getting banned but, alas, instead fame will now be the one to take a hit with the ban-hammer. Everyone will now forget everything fame has come up with so far, and everyone will now see fame as a jealous idiot who just wanted some fame.
24/07/2014 13:00Originally posted by fameOriginally posted by PU9makerYoure prolly the biggest hypocrite in the history of XJ. You would like to see ( im gonna say most likely, cuz there is always a chance ) clean players banned while you would happily recording more and more cheated demos ? If you have such a good knowledge about demochecking, why didnt you contact head admins or our demo admins ? tell them what they should focus on etc ? Or are you pissed you werent picked as a XJ demo admin ?
I can easily record more cheated demos without getting banned VNS but I simply don't need that. All what I want I got. Some people knew that my demo is cheated, because I knew that I probably will be busted so I didn't want to be a cheater in their eyes. I even wanted in near future replace this cheated demo with legal one, since I still able to do it without cheats, you probably remember that cg_coldbhop_FAME_0025.85, it was legal for sure.
Of course I'm not protecting myself and I'm ready to get banned but don't forget - thread about VNS, not me.
you got that one right, shnz demo will be put back asap.
Moxx is a bitch ass nigga
Originally posted by kQbmigI was really looking forward to see VNS getting banned but, alas, instead fame will be the one to take a hit with the ban-hammer. Everyone will now forget everything fame has come up with so far, and everyone will now see fame as a jealous idiot who just wanted some fame.
but you're missing the point that the "proof" about vns wasn't proof.... his demos aren't cheated
So basically frame's cheated demo got past the demo checking tools and came out clean. How many more are cheated? Guess we'll never know.
Hey guys, clean player here, did 250 LJ block twice, AMA.
hilllililarious stuff.
Fame go to sleep already thx
24/07/2014 13:17On one hand..i get your primitive way of thinking (let me prove them "xj demo admins" that they can t detect some cheats that this juice guy for some reason keeps making and improving them, and then hands them out to various people, instead of perhaps taking edarks place and try to make better tools or just let admins know of the new hacks and how they can be detected...if they can acually be detected).
One the other hand....like leggie says, you re looking at things wrong, fame, and your way of proving things isn t the best one. But submiting a cheated demo, i find that idiotic.
You think you re trying to help but you ruin it. Instead of working with the admins, you are just trying to prove them wrong and perhaps spite them for not checking demos correctly or even not knowing how to check them correctly. Side note: it must be said it's very hard to work with some admins since they log in like once a week or something...in 2014... Basicly making it extremely hard to work with or even get in touch with them. Also there are people who want to help but no, fuck em...
Anyway...my 2 cents...
Originally posted by PU9makerOr are you pissed you werent picked as a XJ demo admin ?
I really don't give a fuck about this. Anyway, it's funny for me to hear such things from person who literally was kicked out from admins and then came back when they called you.
Originally posted by eclipzhhilllililarious stuff.
Fame go to sleep already thx
Woke up few hours ago thx
Originally posted by KeoOn one hand..i get your primitive way of thinking (let me prove them "xj demo admins" that they can t detect some cheats that this juice guy for some reason keeps making and improving them, and then hands them out to various people, instead of perhaps taking edarks place and try to make better tools or just let admins know of the new hacks and how they can be detected...if they can acually be detected).
One the other hand....like leggie says, you re looking at things wrong, fame, and your way of proving things isn t the best one. But submiting a cheated demo, i find that idiotic.
You think you re trying to help but you ruin it. Instead of working with the admins, you are just trying to prove them wrong and perhaps spite them for not checking demos correctly or even not knowing how to check them correctly. Side note: it must be said it's very hard to work with some admins since they log in like once a week or something...in 2014... Basicly making it extremely hard to work with or even get in touch with them. Also there are people who want to help but no, fuck em...
Anyway...my 2 cents...
It's silly to blame Juice for what he doing, since there is no any other coder who making cheats for kreedz, while there is a lot of democheckers. If there is good, there also should be evil. How you can talk about ways of proving when there is simply no other way? My cheated demo doesn't have anything to do with this thread, I already said it in previous post.
I still don't see any proofs that VNS doesn't not cheating, because I gave you that he does.
branndonn i hope you never get a computer back or return to the kz scene
i already showed you how these things can happen in demos fame... you're just looking at it all wrong and have your mind set on him being a cheater and you need to clear that and look at it all again and you'll see why it's not cheated
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24/07/2014 13:57Originally posted by fameOriginally posted by PU9makerOr are you pissed you werent picked as a XJ demo admin ?
I really don't give a fuck about this. Anyway, it's funny for me to hear such things from person who literally was kicked out from admins and then came back when they called you.Originally posted by eclipzhhilllililarious stuff.
Fame go to sleep already thx
Woke up few hours ago thxOriginally posted by KeoOn one hand..i get your primitive way of thinking (let me prove them "xj demo admins" that they can t detect some cheats that this juice guy for some reason keeps making and improving them, and then hands them out to various people, instead of perhaps taking edarks place and try to make better tools or just let admins know of the new hacks and how they can be detected...if they can acually be detected).
One the other hand....like leggie says, you re looking at things wrong, fame, and your way of proving things isn t the best one. But submiting a cheated demo, i find that idiotic.
You think you re trying to help but you ruin it. Instead of working with the admins, you are just trying to prove them wrong and perhaps spite them for not checking demos correctly or even not knowing how to check them correctly. Side note: it must be said it's very hard to work with some admins since they log in like once a week or something...in 2014... Basicly making it extremely hard to work with or even get in touch with them. Also there are people who want to help but no, fuck em...
Anyway...my 2 cents...
It's silly to blame Juice for what he doing, since there is no any other coder who making cheats for kreedz, while there is a lot of democheckers. If there is good, there also should be evil. Leggie already was wrong with some cheat accusations (for e.g. alee, gl-p) and in this case he also wrong. How you can talk about ways of proving when there is simply no other way? My cheated demo doesn't have anything to do with this thread, I already said it in previous post.
I still don't see any proofs that VNS doesn't not cheating, because I gave you that he does.
Why is it silly to blame juice? Please explain....because from what i can see from time to time, some people get some cheats (perhaps not all of them are his) and start to play with them and even record.
Is he trying to improve xj defensive system by explaining how to detect them? All i see is silence from him.
So please explain his role.
Also, leggie gave proofs about your cheated demo. What you think are proofs against vns are actually just assumptions.