Cheating: VNS

Started by FAME
22/07/2014 19:44
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WqkO24/07/2014 14:01

Can you guys please fill this: http://strawpoll.me/2182293 ?

Thanks ! ;)

finzer24/07/2014 14:04

you got some balls fame, i'll give you that. accusing ppl of cheating with no tangible proof (atm) as leggie and others told you while you've cheated in your own friggin demo that made it to the release. bravo

"i dont see any proofs that vns is not cheating" is like saying "i dont see any proof that god doesnt exist". this is not how you're supposed prove something, you silly.

knoxville24/07/2014 14:08

ban every1 and their mothers. end of story!

Freezing24/07/2014 14:10(edited 24/07/2014 14:11)

Originally posted by Keo
Originally posted by fame
Originally posted by PU9maker
Or are you pissed you werent picked as a XJ demo admin ?

I really don't give a fuck about this. Anyway, it's funny for me to hear such things from person who literally was kicked out from admins and then came back when they called you.

Originally posted by eclipzh
hilllililarious stuff.

Fame go to sleep already thx

Woke up few hours ago thx

Originally posted by Keo
On one hand..i get your primitive way of thinking (let me prove them "xj demo admins" that they can t detect some cheats that this juice guy for some reason keeps making and improving them, and then hands them out to various people, instead of perhaps taking edarks place and try to make better tools or just let admins know of the new hacks and how they can be detected...if they can acually be detected).
One the other hand....like leggie says, you re looking at things wrong, fame, and your way of proving things isn t the best one. But submiting a cheated demo, i find that idiotic.
You think you re trying to help but you ruin it. Instead of working with the admins, you are just trying to prove them wrong and perhaps spite them for not checking demos correctly or even not knowing how to check them correctly. Side note: it must be said it's very hard to work with some admins since they log in like once a week or something...in 2014... Basicly making it extremely hard to work with or even get in touch with them. Also there are people who want to help but no, fuck em...

Anyway...my 2 cents...

It's silly to blame Juice for what he doing, since there is no any other coder who making cheats for kreedz, while there is a lot of democheckers. If there is good, there also should be evil. Leggie already was wrong with some cheat accusations (for e.g. alee, gl-p) and in this case he also wrong. How you can talk about ways of proving when there is simply no other way? My cheated demo doesn't have anything to do with this thread, I already said it in previous post.

I still don't see any proofs that VNS doesn't not cheating, because I gave you that he does.



Why is it silly to blame juice? Please explain....because from what i can see from time to time, some people get some cheats (perhaps not all of them are his) and start to play with them and even record.
Is he trying to improve xj defensive system by explaining how to detect them? All i see is silence from him.
So please explain his role.

Also, leggie gave proofs about your cheated demo. What you think are proofs against vns are actually just assumptions.



actually , juice is trading hacks for people who wants to have some fun on pub , nothing wrong in this , if he has enought coding knowledge and skills , is his choice and i see this as a creative thing , also like he said above , his hacks got a code like if someone is going to use them to record any demo or wr ( like fame did ) so this is actually helpfull for xj demo admins ... or leggie yea let's just say leggie because demo admins are useless these days seems so .

FAME24/07/2014 14:31(edited 24/07/2014 14:32)

Originally posted by Keo
Originally posted by fame
Originally posted by PU9maker
Or are you pissed you werent picked as a XJ demo admin ?

I really don't give a fuck about this. Anyway, it's funny for me to hear such things from person who literally was kicked out from admins and then came back when they called you.

Originally posted by eclipzh
hilllililarious stuff.

Fame go to sleep already thx

Woke up few hours ago thx

Originally posted by Keo
On one hand..i get your primitive way of thinking (let me prove them "xj demo admins" that they can t detect some cheats that this juice guy for some reason keeps making and improving them, and then hands them out to various people, instead of perhaps taking edarks place and try to make better tools or just let admins know of the new hacks and how they can be detected...if they can acually be detected).
One the other hand....like leggie says, you re looking at things wrong, fame, and your way of proving things isn t the best one. But submiting a cheated demo, i find that idiotic.
You think you re trying to help but you ruin it. Instead of working with the admins, you are just trying to prove them wrong and perhaps spite them for not checking demos correctly or even not knowing how to check them correctly. Side note: it must be said it's very hard to work with some admins since they log in like once a week or something...in 2014... Basicly making it extremely hard to work with or even get in touch with them. Also there are people who want to help but no, fuck em...

Anyway...my 2 cents...

It's silly to blame Juice for what he doing, since there is no any other coder who making cheats for kreedz, while there is a lot of democheckers. If there is good, there also should be evil. Leggie already was wrong with some cheat accusations (for e.g. alee, gl-p) and in this case he also wrong. How you can talk about ways of proving when there is simply no other way? My cheated demo doesn't have anything to do with this thread, I already said it in previous post.

I still don't see any proofs that VNS doesn't not cheating, because I gave you that he does.



Why is it silly to blame juice? Please explain....because from what i can see from time to time, some people get some cheats (perhaps not all of them are his) and start to play with them and even record.
Is he trying to improve xj defensive system by explaining how to detect them? All i see is silence from him.
So please explain his role.

Also, leggie gave proofs about your cheated demo. What you think are proofs against vns are actually just assumptions.

Without him, and without cheaters at all, kreedz would be too boring. Why he even should be interested in improving xj's defensive system? Someone interested in beating records, creating maps/movies, etc. He interested in passing through xj's demochecking system and you can't blame him for it.

I can't give you the same proofs like leggie did only because fact the VNS using hack maded for recording wrs for xj, while I used hack which have backdoor. I got my hack by leaking throght some people, while VNS got his hack directly by Juice and of course he won't give him such detectable hack as I got.

Do I ask too much? Show me at least ONE demo from trusted player with such jumps like VNS had and I will shut up. I gave you real proofs while you only said that it's possible to have such jumps but NO ONE else have them. And this coincidence that he have same jumps like Juice's hacks have, bitch please... God damn, it's fucking obvious that VNS used cheats, I can't get why you can't understand it.

FML, how I tired to repeat all what I said in previous posts.

zythH^ moviemaker24/07/2014 14:36

Originally posted by knoxville
ban every1 and their mothers. end of story!


You are my hero.

ON: Image

Keo mapper24/07/2014 14:43(edited 24/07/2014 14:52)

@freezing: if you think cheating on pubs is nothing wrong, then i don't think we can talk anymore on this subject.
Yea i play pubs too, mostly to chill, and if i like a map, i m trying my best to get a good time in the tops, whereas people like you just come and play for fun with hacks, cuz it s FUN, and ruin my enjoyment (and others) for this game.

Freezing24/07/2014 14:47(edited 24/07/2014 14:49)

keo , don't get me wrong but is easier to understand how a hack looks like or wich people are using it if they use it on pubs , in demos without some advanced tools is not that obvious , look at nikita who just got banned on endo few days ago , this stuff makes people wonder if his wrs are even clean witch prolly not , hope you got my point now , i don't support cheating on pubs , is all about the image or knowledge

leggie24/07/2014 14:51

Originally posted by fame
Do I ask too much? Show me at least ONE demo from trusted player with such jumps like VNS had and I will shut up. I gave you real proofs while you only said that it's possible to have such jumps but NO ONE else have them. And this coincidence that he have same jumps like Juice's hacks have, bitch please... God damn, it's fucking obvious that VNS used cheats, I can't get why you can't understand it.

FML, how I tired to repeat all what I said in previous posts.


[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/p4arcdl.png[/IMG]



[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Qpp7l0j.png[/IMG]

thats similar to his jumps changing, and you wont find somebody with identical commands because thats impossible.

sooshkarecord holder24/07/2014 14:53

thread of the year.

as for the gratuitous ukraine remarks, ukraine will have much hotter girls in the future than sweden, gg.

kQbmigrecord holder24/07/2014 14:58

Originally posted by leggie
Originally posted by fame
Do I ask too much? Show me at least ONE demo from trusted player with such jumps like VNS had and I will shut up. I gave you real proofs while you only said that it's possible to have such jumps but NO ONE else have them. And this coincidence that he have same jumps like Juice's hacks have, bitch please... God damn, it's fucking obvious that VNS used cheats, I can't get why you can't understand it.

FML, how I tired to repeat all what I said in previous posts.


[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/p4arcdl.png[/IMG]



[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Qpp7l0j.png[/IMG]

thats similar to his jumps changing, and you wont find somebody with identical commands because thats impossible.


leggie could you please tell us the jumper of those demos, please?

leggie24/07/2014 15:00

Originally posted by kQbmig
Originally posted by leggie
Originally posted by fame
Do I ask too much? Show me at least ONE demo from trusted player with such jumps like VNS had and I will shut up. I gave you real proofs while you only said that it's possible to have such jumps but NO ONE else have them. And this coincidence that he have same jumps like Juice's hacks have, bitch please... God damn, it's fucking obvious that VNS used cheats, I can't get why you can't understand it.

FML, how I tired to repeat all what I said in previous posts.


[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/p4arcdl.png[/IMG]



[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Qpp7l0j.png[/IMG]

thats similar to his jumps changing, and you wont find somebody with identical commands because thats impossible.


leggie could you please tell us the jumper of those demos, please?


me

FAME24/07/2014 15:01

Originally posted by leggie
Originally posted by fame
Do I ask too much? Show me at least ONE demo from trusted player with such jumps like VNS had and I will shut up. I gave you real proofs while you only said that it's possible to have such jumps but NO ONE else have them. And this coincidence that he have same jumps like Juice's hacks have, bitch please... God damn, it's fucking obvious that VNS used cheats, I can't get why you can't understand it.

FML, how I tired to repeat all what I said in previous posts.


[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/p4arcdl.png[/IMG]



[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Qpp7l0j.png[/IMG]

thats similar to his jumps changing, and you wont find somebody with identical commands because thats impossible.

I'll correct myself: show me at least one demo from trusted player with such jumps like VNS had recorded till this thread and I will shut up. Isn't you were talking about similar bug in pizza's demos, so I don't think it will be too hard for you to find them. Also, this demo on your second screen seems recorded with hacks.

kQbmigrecord holder24/07/2014 15:02

you failed to deliver imo... you aren't a trusted player.

VNS Banned Comment Banned Submit Banned24/07/2014 15:04

damn if he aint a trusted player then what the fuck are you?

kQbmigrecord holder24/07/2014 15:06

wait i'm not the one using this pre stabilizer hack on publics, am I?

leggie24/07/2014 15:09

Originally posted by kQbmig
wait i'm not the one using this pre stabilizer hack on publics, am I?

oh so im a cheater now LOL?

kQbmigrecord holder24/07/2014 15:11

i wasn't reffering to you in that reply. anyway you aren't trusted because you haven't been through e-darks in deep check before.

g-Lprecord holder Tournament #124/07/2014 15:17

He is asking a demo from a trusted WR Holder, are you leggie?

VNS Banned Comment Banned Submit Banned24/07/2014 15:18

so i cheat on publics now aswell? damn mirin as fuck

and for the record i consider myself way more trusted than you since i actually haven't been banned from xj multiple times like you have and atleast one of those bans of urs was related to cheating so, idgaf what you say from here on

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