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wow finzer, cute new pic . is it from movie?
yeah miko, its from a 1907's short movie called "the dancing pig" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0246507/
i'm sure you can find it on youtube, its like 4 minutes long.
29/07/2014 16:52First of all, I think that you're tossing a whole lot of shit right now around you, and some of it bounces back on yourself. It's not about ones maturity, but if you want to question if someone cheated 'ONLY ONE DEMO' if they are still a cheater? Well hate to bring it to you, but they are.
Napz left his mark? I barely know who Napz is.. And why is this important? Well it's not, because it's worthless information, he has more fame than you and you? Pfft funnny stuff.
And yes, it does look like you idolize him, and I'll tell you why: Well first of all you complain about cheaters not being caught and how there was 'no proof' when lynn got banned but at the same time you feel that napz did it to 'prove a point', how does one prove a point by cheating on purpose by submitting it to XJ and getting banned? - Nothing, that he is a fucking imbicil maybe. If one were to cheat and then send it in to a demoadmin and explain to them how the cheat works and how to make it look legit and all that, well that's a whole other story. Is Napz a better guy than kayne? Well both of them cheated in the past there's no real difference between them.
Cheating one time doesn't make you a huge vilain, a person not to respect at all. Yes, it changes things, but its the purpouse that matters abit. Anyway, XJ was and is still promoting cheaters, you need to agree with that.
Cheating one time obviously makes you a huge villian as you've proved here by talking down to kayne, and how YOU believe he cheats now, which is worthless information unless he actually get's busted. Instead of crying in the forums how about trying to get some actual proof, or just shut up already.
I hate fakan's attitude : if they're not caught, then they're not cheaters.
Well, this makes you look even more like you're favoring certain cheaters over others. And whatever you want to make out of fakan, he made some valid points, what did you give us? Flaming and a bunch of information that we can't do anything with.
Is there cheaters on XJ? Yes there probably is. Who is cheating is quite unimportant since different people will have different views on cheats. Your opinion that kayne or anyone else cheats and is cheating more than napz is hilarious. It's like you're a maggot in an apple that can't see the big picture. Just like in the other kzmod thread you show a very limited mind;
"Who cares ... if there is for us to "move", kzmod is the destination!" where lagster is wrong and you is right, just because you feel it should be that way. Maggot - Apple.
And what does finzers avatar have to do with anything?
To answer the thread, as far as cheating goes I've done some jump;wait and that's about it.
29/07/2014 16:56Originally posted by finzErI really thought you would respond in a mature way cobrex, guess i was wrong.
My "retarded ass avatar"? what does it have to do with anything i said? pls enlighten me
"The marks I left on this scene?" this is exactly what i was trying to prove. It's not because someone has wr's and whatnot that it makes his opinion more valid. You know that right? So again, what does it have to do with anything? I can't have an opinion because i didn't beat coldbhop record? Wai, am i even allowed to write in this part of the forums?
How can I respond in a mature way when you always diss me?
You didn't get my "left a mark" idea! Leaving something behind you, your nickname, doesn't need to relate to jumping only ... it can be done with movies, maps, even making a big change in the community(admin or not). My oppinion is that if you left a mark, something behind you, then you somehow have a slightly "bigger" word upon situations. Hope you get my idea ... just compare if there was, for example, FoF, debating something like movies / dcj, with 8ball1(movies) / theddy(dcj) .. or just a random guy who nobody knows much about. Thats what im talking about ... important people = left a mark (not all)
About that avatar ... it was meant to refer to the "childish behaviour"
Idea is that if NAPZ didn't cheat, you guys would have respond to him nicer ... then there was no reason for him to start flaming and dissin'.
People believe VNS, Bibika, kayne, blabla (my oppinion of possible cheaters,sorry vns) are legal, they idolize 'em, they respect them, even if its clearly seen that they use some sort of unfair advantage ... yet, when cheaters get caught, everybody goes like "meh, knew it". Until then, nobody believe they cheat, even if its sooo obvious. Too bad not most of you there know how hard it is to do what TOP5 accomplished, even if some runs have almost impossible combos for a human being (to perform them all, example : kz_facility)
29/07/2014 16:59(edited 29/07/2014 17:00)Originally posted by kz`MoxxFirst of all, I think that you're tossing a whole lot of shit right now around you, and some of it bounces back on yourself. It's not about ones maturity, but if you want to question if someone cheated 'ONLY ONE DEMO' if they are still a cheater? Well hate to bring it to you, but they are.
Napz left his mark? I barely know who Napz is.. And why is this important? Well it's not, because it's worthless information, he has more fame than you and you? Pfft funnny stuff.
And yes, it does look like you idolize him, and I'll tell you why: Well first of all you complain about cheaters not being caught and how there was 'no proof' when lynn got banned but at the same time you feel that napz did it to 'prove a point', how does one prove a point by cheating on purpose by submitting it to XJ and getting banned? - Nothing, that he is a fucking imbicil maybe. If one were to cheat and then send it in to a demoadmin and explain to them how the cheat works and how to make it look legit and all that, well that's a whole other story. Is Napz a better guy than kayne? Well both of them cheated in the past there's no real difference between them.
Cheating one time doesn't make you a huge vilain, a person not to respect at all. Yes, it changes things, but its the purpouse that matters abit. Anyway, XJ was and is still promoting cheaters, you need to agree with that.
Cheating one time obviously makes you a huge villian as you've proved here by talking down to kayne, and how YOU believe he cheats now, which is worthless information unless he actually get's busted. Instead of crying in the forums how about trying to get some actual proof, or just shut up already.
I hate fakan's attitude : if they're not caught, then they're not cheaters.
Well, this makes you look even more like you're favoring certain cheaters over others. And whatever you want to make out of fakan, he made some valid points, what did you give us? Flaming and a bunch of information that we can't do anything with.
Is there cheaters on XJ? Yes there probably is. Who is cheating is quite unimportant since different people will have different views on cheats. Your opinion that kayne or anyone else cheats and is cheating more than napz is hilarious. It's like you're a maggot in an apple that can't see the big picture. Just like in the other kzmod thread you show a very limited mind;
"Who cares ... if there is for us to "move", kzmod is the destination!" where lagster is wrong and you is right, just because you feel it should be that way. Maggot - Apple.
And what does finzers avatar have to do with anything?
To answer the thread, as far as cheating goes I've done some jump;wait and that's about it.
Well I stopped reading your retarded comment at this point. When you call someone an imbecile, please at least spell it correctly.
29/07/2014 17:06Thanks for the spell check, didn't realize XJ had one.
Originally posted by kQbmigWell I stopped reading your retarded comment at this point. When you call someone an imbecile, please at least spell it correctly.
Last edit: 29/07/14 - 17:00:57
^ Nice edit btw
29/07/2014 17:09Originally posted by kz`MoxxThanks for the spell check, didn't realize XJ had one.Originally posted by kQbmigWell I stopped reading your retarded comment at this point. When you call someone an imbecile, please at least spell it correctly.
Last edit: 29/07/14 - 17:00:57
^ Nice edit btw
says the guy who corrected g-lp, in the VNS thread.
29/07/2014 17:11Kayne, despite XJ's decision, was caught again with a cheat, regarding the demos you can find in the 'records list'. It's one way to cheat all your demos, or just one bcuz you are to greedy to let somebody else rape every attempt of yours on a certain map. Its still a difference!
I don't complain about cheaters not being caught ... I complain about others believing them as being legit.
I believe you're more arrow minded than me ... you can't read between the lines too. Except "napz left a mark" & "kayne cheats", you see zero info.
A regular(if I can say it like that) cheater fks up the record list by uploading cheated demos. Yet, NAPZ only uploaded one ... why should people like him be categorized with the "regular cheaters"? We both don't know this : if napz wouldn't have been caught with cheat, would he announce his "discovery" or just continue uploading more demos? Lets just end this subject here.
And what does that "kzmod" have to do with anything here? People seem to not appreciate enough the work put into kzmod, a mod done specially for us to advance to. Once csgo came, suddenly all of them want XJ to include it here too. Isn't that a disrespectful attitude, since kzmod = 1.6's movement, while csgo = its own?
Stop dissin' before you learn to read more than its writen. <--- sure, now diss this statement too
napz so much cry cry bcos he got caught proving a point :D :D :D funny shit
29/07/2014 17:24this thread is fucking gold
i'm not dissing you cobrex, i just didn't agree with what you and others said. I didnt know i needed some kind of degree that would make my opinion count more than yours.
i'm gonna go full cobrex on this one, and explain myself a little. I didnt do any wr's, but you know, i did play this game, like everyone else here. I didn't make any maps cuz i dont see the appeal in building maps. sue me. i did make some shitty edit years ago though, i didnt need to brag about it everywhere in xj as i made it for my own entertainement. as for contributing for the community, i try to write insighful comments in the forum (believe it or not). i also wrote some review that made the frontpage here. big fucking deal. and does that make my opinion on anything any more valid? i doubt it.
in this kind of community, i'd like to believe each and every one opinion matters. yours, mine, everyones no matter who's hiding behind the nick and no matter what "mark he might've left"
as for the "cheat matter", i still dont understand how your logic works. one cheated demo is ok? when in your opinion does it start to be "not ok"? 2 demos ? 3 ? more ?
also how can you not see that the "innocent until proven guilty" is the best option possible? especially here. Everytime someone doubts the legitimity of one player, his records shall get removed? do you think that would be the best way to handle things on an online gaming community? i doubt it
Cobrex, you went from cosy to xj with the same theme xD ill take you that band
29/07/2014 17:50Originally posted by finzEras for the "cheat matter", i still dont understand how your logic works. one cheated demo is ok? when in your opinion does it start to be "not ok"? 2 demos ? 3 ? more ?
also how can you not see that the "innocent until proven guilty" is the best option possible? especially here. Everytime someone doubts the legitimity of one player, his records shall get removed? do you think that would be the best way to handle things on an online gaming community? i doubt it
I'm not saying cheating is ok! I'm refering to how people see it ... by cheating in multiple demos, you beat legal runs & there's a big chance you destroy the "wr capability" on certain maps, or atleast the view about "can it be improvable?". That destroys the game ... there are not so many people that geek like oldschoolers did, because the demos are nearly perfect. The problem is : not all of these are legal
My logic works this way :
if you hit TOP5 with cheated demos, then you deserve a permanent ban without any second chance.
if you hit TOP5 with clean demos, but at some point you decide to upload a cheated one, then you deserve a ban but providing a second chance in the future. (not talking exactly about napz here)
So if that guy got a second chance, he must not be seen as a "forever cheater, you destroyed kz !!!" ... that applies for people like lynn & so on(not giving names just to not start a war again)
Anyway the record list is almost perfect, so the will to spend years just to get to beat one wr is null. There comes the "cheating" idea.
I've done strafe emulator + slowmo for testing out the lowest possible times on speedmaps and came to realise that 20.xx is possible on drewbie_longjumps. Never submitted a single demo though.
so your saying cheating a demo bcos its "unbeatable" bcos some1 spend time on it is ok?!
and why the fuck would you "try to cheat" one demo if your in the top5 or whatever top?! thats just dumb lol ... and napz gets called out as a cheater everywhere bcos he cheated whats the big deal? he did exactly know what would happen if he gets caught lol
innocent until proven guilty
29/07/2014 18:52Originally posted by CobrexKayne, despite XJ's decision, was caught again with a cheat, regarding the demos you can find in the 'records list'. It's one way to cheat all your demos, or just one bcuz you are to greedy to let somebody else rape every attempt of yours on a certain map. Its still a difference!
uhh what? when was i caught again? I cheated once, back in 2008, i havent cheated or been caught since i was unbanned.
it's cool how these guys who had a purpose of cheating ("to prove a point") were the ones to hide it the most, if you even remember my bhoptoon and if you are smart enough you'd see theres nothing i did to try to hide it, it was just blatant. but i never made a silly excuse for my stupid decision to submit that demo.
theres only been one single problem with me after i got unbanned, thats been my behaviour, everyone including myself knows i was really childish and immature but imho its getting better and better, havent been rude to anyone for quite a while now from what i can remember.
anyways, not that i care who hates me or not - i still know what ive done and im not proud of it, but dont ignore the fact that i got to the top5 of the playershistory list ( http://xtreme-jumps.eu/demos_history/player.php ) and thats done legit.
Originally posted by kaynebut dont ignore the fact that i got to the top5 of the playershistory list ( http://xtreme-jumps.eu/demos_history/player.php ) and thats done legit.
Half of this demos is cheated with gain plugin and you are talking about top5, lol.
And yes, last time you cheated (with proofs) was in 2012, stop talking shit about 2008.
I'll say even more:
2009 - boost plugin, multijump plugin, slowmo
2010 - speedhack plugin
2011-2012 - gain plugin
2013-2014 - ?
29/07/2014 20:07(edited 29/07/2014 20:07)Originally posted by fameOriginally posted by kaynebut dont ignore the fact that i got to the top5 of the playershistory list ( http://xtreme-jumps.eu/demos_history/player.php ) and thats done legit.
Half of this demos is cheated with gain plugin and you are talking about top5, lol.
And yes, last time you cheated (with proofs) was in 2012, stop talking shit about 2008.
I'll say even more:
2009 - boost plugin, multijump plugin, slowmo
2010 - speedhack plugin
2011-2012 - gain plugin
2013-2014 - ?
ROFL you're not banned yet?
wheres the proof from 2012? oo theres none thats why you didnt link anything.
if you're talking about the rollback, then i truly feel sad for you cuz we both know theres nothing i could have done about that except use standard xj amxx pack which no one ever does.
and hey btw, the release after that rollback i beat back majority of the demos but with better times.. wanna explain how that happened if i cheated the first demos but not the others? good logic bro
id like to know more about that list of yours tho, i can only admit to the boost plugin which happened 2009 (i looked it up sry for saying 2008, no big deal tho) but the rest makes me smile :^)
i think you can remove 2014 from that list, i havent recorded a single demo 2014, and only 2 released (3 january, made 2013). but other than that.. thanks mate
edit: forgot to ask, whats multijump? LOL never heard anything called that
Kappa
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